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Re: Crackers for the 9.5
26/01/09 03:29 PM

Daryl, GREAT post. It demonstrates the curved-in jacket portion of the Horn 300 RN at the meplat that curves IN and rivets, instead of peeling back and expanding as a "mushroom"...sometimes...

Bpsteve, thanks; question. You say the 270 did not expand at 2000 muzzle velocity?

Can you post a pic of the recovered bullet?

How much critter {inches, estimated} would it have had to go to exit? Hit the spine and did not expand?

Seems like on most broadside shots a 270/.375 that doesn't expand would exit.

Not doubting you in any way, just disecting this thing to see what the problem & solution is.

As mentioned above, most .375 bullets are designed for H&H Mag velocities, not 57mm case speeds.

The 57mm case generates significantly higher velocities than the .375 Winchester, but not nearly so high as that generated by the H&H Mag. This is the challenge for all shooters of the .375 bullets the Mauser & Mannlicher 57mm cases, obviously.

Since bullet "tricking" is easy {HP's, Flat Pointing, etc}, there are no worries about it, except that the problem must be identified before game is shot.

All this goes for .375 Velopex Brit, 9.5 Mannlicher and .375 Win shooters {Ruger No. 3's} and of course 9.3x57 shooters who use .375 bullets sized down as I have.

A peek at Daryl's perfect pictures shows the difference between the 300RN and 270RN bullet jackets. Take that 300 jacket off to a similar configuration demonstrated by the 270 as I showed in a previous post {tip grinding} and you get a great medium game bullet of 296 grains.

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Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	25/01/09 02:31 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	peter	25/01/09 04:01 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	25/01/09 08:34 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	9.3x57	25/01/09 01:13 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	25/01/09 11:26 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	9.3x57	26/01/09 01:26 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	26/01/09 06:11 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	26/01/09 07:28 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	bpesteve	26/01/09 03:03 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	9.3x57	26/01/09 03:29 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	27/01/09 01:02 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	9.3x57	27/01/09 01:07 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	27/01/09 02:34 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	ChrisPer	28/01/09 12:01 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	bpesteve	28/01/09 03:52 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	28/01/09 04:28 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	kamilaroi	28/01/09 08:42 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	28/01/09 02:39 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	kamilaroi	28/01/09 05:25 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	29/01/09 02:36 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	29/01/09 02:18 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	ChrisPer	29/01/09 07:35 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	30/01/09 01:54 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	09/02/09 01:25 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	09/02/09 03:07 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Kiwi_bloke	02/04/10 08:24 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	09/02/09 02:37 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	9.3x57	09/02/09 03:04 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	14/02/09 07:50 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	07/03/10 01:07 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Marrakai	08/03/09 11:22 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	DarylS	09/03/09 03:13 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	GG375	10/03/09 09:51 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	kuduae	18/01/10 06:19 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	xausa	18/01/10 09:16 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	kuduae	18/01/10 10:38 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Sarg	18/01/10 10:14 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	kuduae	19/01/10 08:32 AM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	lawndart	06/03/10 04:19 PM
Re: Crackers for the 9.5	Sarg	18/01/10 08:29 AM
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