Forums.NitroExpress.com

Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact NitroExpress.com: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott

View recent messages : 24 hours | 48 hours | 7 days | 14 days | 30 days | 60 days | More Smilies

*** Enjoy NitroExpress.com? Participate and join in. ***

You are not logged in. [Login]

Main Index · Search · Active Topics
New user · Who's Online · FAQ · Calendar

Shooting & Reloading - Mausers, Big Bores and others >> Big Bore Rifles

AfricaHunter
.224 member

Reged: 27/12/08
Posts: 17
Loc: California

Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott
28/12/08 09:28 AM

There has, I believe, always been confusion and disagreement over these definitions. This Big Bore Rifle board uses, as do many, the .375H&H as the beginning. I disagree and define the .375 as a large medium bore. IMO large bores start at .40 and include the .404Jeff and all .416 rifles. I am not alone in drawing these lines of separation and think this keeps things much simpler for discussion purposes. I'm not aware of a distinction between Large and Big bore rifles; they are anything over .40. I've never tried to quantify a "stopping rifle"; like SCOTUS, I know one when I see it. Based upon my education, training and experience, I can state with confidence that anything delivering ballistic equivalence to a .470NE/.458Lott does qualify as a stopping rifle. I admit to having no experience with any of the .450NE derivatives and so cannot comment on their capability. And yes, I agree wholeheartedly that a .45-70 is not a stopper.

I am much more a rifle and shooting type and claim no expertise as a reloader, as I don't do it. Frankly, given the quality of todays commercial ammunition utilizing premium bullets and proprietary powders, I don't see the need. Re-loaders needn't reply.

Since I killed my first Ele with a .375H&H, I can't fault your logic re: .416Rigby. My own choice in a .416 is the Remington, for many reasons, but I do believe it's a personal preference and no one needs apologize for their selection between the two.

Post Extras

Print Post

Remind Me!

Notify Moderator

Entire topic
Subject	Posted by	Posted on
416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	11/12/08 04:20 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	11/12/08 06:47 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Caprivi	11/12/08 11:09 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Sarg	11/12/08 03:54 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	11/12/08 06:14 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	12/12/08 05:12 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	12/12/08 08:33 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	12/12/08 06:14 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Ripp	14/12/08 07:04 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	14/12/08 07:14 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	AfricaHunter	27/12/08 07:54 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Der_Jaeger	27/12/08 11:53 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	28/12/08 12:05 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	AfricaHunter	28/12/08 08:21 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Der_Jaeger	28/12/08 08:44 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	AfricaHunter	28/12/08 09:28 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	NitroX	04/05/09 03:23 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	28/12/08 11:05 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	28/12/08 06:33 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Rick_R	30/12/08 11:57 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	30/12/08 03:51 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	AfricaHunter	30/12/08 02:49 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	bigmaxx	22/01/09 01:53 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	24/01/09 05:54 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	02/05/09 05:39 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	500grains	02/05/09 07:47 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott DELETED	thorshammer	02/05/09 09:32 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	03/05/09 07:33 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	NitroX	04/05/09 02:57 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	04/05/09 11:48 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Ripp	04/05/09 11:49 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	04/05/09 01:44 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Ripp	04/05/09 10:49 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	04/05/09 11:51 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	tkv000	09/05/09 03:14 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott DELETED	thorshammer	09/05/09 03:42 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 04:19 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	09/05/09 05:04 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 05:57 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	10/05/09 12:28 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	10/05/09 02:11 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	10/05/09 02:49 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Mike_Bailey	10/05/09 04:20 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	10/05/09 05:36 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	450_366	10/05/09 05:54 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	JabaliHunter	10/05/09 08:46 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	10/05/09 08:56 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	10/05/09 09:09 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	10/05/09 09:14 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Mike_Bailey	10/05/09 09:48 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	10/05/09 11:13 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	11/05/09 12:12 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	11/05/09 02:04 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	13/05/09 03:04 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Ripp	13/05/09 04:32 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	13/05/09 06:09 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	17/05/09 03:41 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	17/05/09 03:54 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	17/05/09 04:06 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	17/05/09 04:15 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	17/05/09 04:48 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	17/05/09 04:55 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	17/05/09 05:02 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	20/05/09 07:36 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Bramble	20/05/09 08:33 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	20/05/09 01:48 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	21/05/09 07:17 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	JabaliHunter	13/05/09 04:16 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	13/05/09 06:04 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	10/05/09 06:02 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott DELETED	thorshammer	09/05/09 05:18 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	peter	09/05/09 06:45 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 07:37 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 08:10 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	thorshammer	09/05/09 08:35 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 09:23 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	peter	09/05/09 08:40 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 09:26 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	NitroX	11/05/09 12:55 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	11/05/09 02:01 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	11/05/09 01:02 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	thorshammer	09/05/09 06:55 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	thorshammer	09/05/09 06:52 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	peter	09/05/09 06:55 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	thorshammer	09/05/09 07:00 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	peter	09/05/09 07:04 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott DELETED	thorshammer	09/05/09 07:08 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 07:30 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 05:54 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	thorshammer	09/05/09 05:55 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 05:49 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	09/05/09 04:17 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	09/05/09 04:46 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott DELETED	thorshammer	04/05/09 01:41 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	04/05/09 01:50 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott DELETED	thorshammer	04/05/09 01:55 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott DELETED	thorshammer	04/05/09 01:56 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	crkennedy1	02/05/09 12:48 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	02/05/09 04:34 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	EXPRESSBOY	23/01/09 09:28 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	thorshammer	19/01/09 10:14 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	NitroX	04/05/09 02:52 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ChinaFleetSailor	19/01/09 05:15 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	19/01/09 07:07 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ChinaFleetSailor	21/01/09 02:21 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	19/01/09 10:38 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	19/01/09 03:56 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	19/01/09 07:42 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	500grains	21/01/09 03:36 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	21/01/09 05:38 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Sarg	19/01/09 04:37 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ChinaFleetSailor	19/01/09 09:49 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	grandveneur	19/01/09 09:58 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ALAN_MCKENZIE	15/01/09 11:30 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	30/12/08 03:54 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	30/12/08 03:55 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	15/01/09 06:50 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	28/12/08 06:36 PM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	30/12/08 07:54 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	28/12/08 08:57 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	Der_Jaeger	28/12/08 09:00 AM
Re: 416 Rigby or 458 Lott	ovny	27/12/08 08:46 PM

Extra information

0 registered and 158 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Thread views: 37289

Jump to

NitroExpress.com

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5

Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact

Copyright 2003 to 2011 - all rights reserved