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Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance
      22/11/08 07:29 AM

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Ripp - the trouble I see with the 9.3x57, is the low velocity and possible refusal to expand or very limited expansion with a X type bullets.

I figure, in a '98 action's 9.3x57, the 250gr. Barnes TX might achieve around 2,450fps to maybe 2,500fps, same speed I drive 232gr. Vulcans and swaged 225gr. Hornady SP's in my M46 Husky. BLC2 and H4895 seem to work the best. I should include Varget in there as well as I use it with 286gr. and 300gr. swaged Hornady's.

I'm not conviced a premium bullet is needed in this sedate round, unless one wishes to break down heavy game with large bone hits. That's where the X-type bullet really shines. I think a 300gr.RN Hornady, swaged or drawn down to .366" will give all the penetration needed. In Rod's tests, it beat all his tested bullets so far, including the .375's for total penetration. He was only driving them at 2,050fps. My M46 Husky makes 2,175fps with them and just over 2,200fps with the 286's using the same load. A M98 9.3x57 might get upwards of 2,250 with the 300's.

I have some cup-pointed 300gr. Interbonds I should send him to test for penetration and expansion.

Note the velocities I'm getting in my rifle may not be safe in other M46's. My rifle has a .370" groove diameter along with the normal .358" bore. The rifling is very deep but the chamber won't allow a round with a bullet larger than .367" to be chambered, so that's what I swage the .375's to.

At 2,200fps to 2,250fps with 300gr. bullets, that old 9.3x57 (model '98 action) matches some of the old GREATS mentioned in John Taylor's book. Some of the .33's.



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You are exactely correct--which is what I was thinking of when I mentioned I had the bullet running around 3650 fps--the only time I have heard of any complaints is on the higher velocity calibers..

I ran some accubonds in my 300 Ultra-mag in '04 on plains game in Zim. Poor perfomance--again, 180gr at close to 3400 fps--very little penetration..in fact I switched to my .416 Rem for the remainder of the trip..on everything from plains game to buffalo..

The nosler partition is another good example--been a great bullet forever--provided it is fired at 3100 fps or less..IMHO..

Thx
Ripp

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* Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance Ripp 18/11/08 01:08 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance SharpsNitro   19/11/08 08:54 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance Ripp   19/11/08 11:33 PM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance SharpsNitro   20/11/08 10:02 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance Ripp   21/11/08 01:01 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance 9.3x57   21/11/08 04:09 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance DarylS   21/11/08 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance Ripp   22/11/08 07:29 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance dale   22/11/08 06:26 PM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance Ripp   23/11/08 06:32 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance DarylS   20/11/08 06:48 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance JabaliHunter   19/11/08 11:07 PM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance DarylS   18/11/08 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance 9.3x57   18/11/08 03:38 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance tinker   18/11/08 04:10 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance Ripp   18/11/08 07:02 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance bigmaxx   18/11/08 12:42 PM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance Ripp   19/11/08 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance DarylS   19/11/08 02:29 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance Ripp   19/11/08 04:19 AM
. * * Re: Barnes Triple X--in the field perfomance DarylS   19/11/08 07:02 AM

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