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I was in a shop today whilst on my lunch break and saw an American shooting magazine, guns and ammo. I was reading it and came across an article where the writer claims to have seen no "shock" or stunning effect from a near miss on a elephants brain with the .577 NE, in fact the elephant needed a second finishing shot.

Now I havent read as many books as some here and certainly havent had the sights of my own .577 on an elephant, but I always thought that the .577 NE was THE stopper for when things went south, for it can be depended on to turn or knock out the animal even in the event of a near miss. It seems from this account that my .416 rigby would be as effective, and that the extra recoil and rifle weight of the .577 is pointless as it still wont do the job needed.

So my question is two fold, firstly is the big .577 over-rated in its effectivness in dangerous situations, and secondly if the taylor KO value needed to KO an elephant os aprox 50 from memory, then the .577's 100+ should have been enough, so is the taylor KO system flawed? Could poor marksmanship have been partly responsible? Not looking at starting a war just this article seems to fly in the face of everything I thought I knew about the .577 NE

Cheers
Steve

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I have not shot anything with the 577 NE but I have shot 1 elephant and 1 buffalo with the 585 nyati (750 grain .585" bullet at 2250 fps). Penetration with solids was 3 to 3.5 feet. In comparison with my experience with the 500 NE, the 585 Nyati seems to transmit more shock to the animal when taking a body shot. But I am not convinced it is worth carrying the extra 3 to 5 pounds of rifle for that extra shock.

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