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Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really?
      09/09/08 10:39 PM

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Apparently your gunsmithing skills know no bounds....


It is unfortunate they just can't do that correctly the first time right at the factory...




Oh, yeah, just call me Mr Rigby...

One more thing. My gunsmith told me it is common to remove that triangular portion of the lower claw when bevelling for snap-over. Why CZ would remove that portion but not go whole hog on every extractor to ensure snap-over is beyond me.

This whole issue has been a real eye-opener to me and I'm thinking it finalizes my feeling that the best overall action type I've ever used is the SAKO AIII/AV, with pushfeed and controlled ejection.

Having said that, certainly there are many Mausers that function 100% CRF, and there is nothing wrong with that! As a matter of fact, my son's FN .270 and 1903A3 Springfield are absolutely dead-reliable CRF, and I cannot get them to miss a shell loaded from the mag. Pointed straight down and jiggling the bolt back and forth and feeding slowly, an extreme test, nevertheless results in a totally controlled round as the shell pops up out of the mag and under the extractor every time.

This project has also exposed the importance of the magazine in Mauser CRF, and truth be told, it could be the attempt to make mags semi-universal that is causing most of the mayhem, not the extractor claw per se. IIRC, per Speed, Original Mausers had specific mag box and feed lips engineered to every cartridge. Most if not all susequent commercial mass producers do not. Just exactly when and how the case leaves the mag makes a big difference in the extractor's ability to grab it correctly.

No wonder many of the mass producers dumped the Mauser claw and went to variations of push feed...

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Edited by 9ThreeXFifty7 (09/09/08 11:58 PM)

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* CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? 9.3x57 28/08/08 05:25 AM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? zimhunter   31/08/08 12:36 PM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? tophet1   31/08/08 07:22 PM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? 9.3x57   31/08/08 11:54 PM
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. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? 9.3x57   01/09/08 12:50 AM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? Tatume   01/09/08 01:30 AM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? 9.3x57   01/09/08 01:43 AM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? 4seventy   01/09/08 06:30 PM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? 9.3x57   01/09/08 10:24 PM
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. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? ALAN_MCKENZIE   02/09/08 12:15 PM
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. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? hoppdoc   02/09/08 07:16 AM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? tophet1   01/09/08 09:19 AM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? 9.3x57   01/09/08 02:25 PM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? Paul   01/09/08 06:16 PM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? hoppdoc   01/09/08 09:17 PM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? Paul   02/09/08 07:35 PM
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. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? 9.3x57   03/09/08 02:13 AM
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. * * CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? 9.3x57   09/09/08 01:23 PM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? Ripp   09/09/08 10:04 PM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? 9.3x57   09/09/08 10:39 PM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? Ripp   11/09/08 10:31 PM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? 9.3x57   12/09/08 10:43 AM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? chuck375   30/09/08 10:45 AM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? 9.3x57   30/09/08 11:03 AM
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. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? 9.3x57   06/10/08 02:22 AM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? chuck375   06/10/08 03:11 AM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? bigmaxx   01/10/08 12:07 PM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? 9.3x57   10/09/08 01:05 PM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? Paul   10/09/08 02:00 PM
. * * Re: CZ550/VZ24 Extractor CRF: Oh Really? 9.3x57   11/09/08 09:41 AM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? Ripp   08/09/08 06:13 AM
. * * Re: CZ550 Controlled Feed: Oh Really? tophet1   07/09/08 07:56 PM
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