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watto
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Re: Are the Remington .45-70 doubles regulated?
      29/08/08 10:22 PM

Hi Guys, as stated previously I also have 2 ruskies, a 9.3 x 74 O & U and a 30/06 S x S. I am currently waiting on my 45/70 to arrive.
None of the Baikals, (or Rem. Spartans in the US) are regulated I believe, which is obviously one of the ways to keep the cost down. As we know the high quality rifles have had many hours spent on them to get the regulation right. As stated earlier in this thread the Baikal uses a threaded wheel about 2/3 along the barrels and turning the wheel it moves the non fixed barrel either toward or away from the fixed barrel thereby changing the point of impact of the 2 barrels in relation to each other.

My first rifle the 9.3 took about a dozen or so shots to regulate. The 30/06 I had not had much of a chance to do a lot with it due to work commitments, but the few shots I had with it looked like it would come up ok. I had initially fitted the 06 with a cheap scope that I had sitting around but it had a problem so I took it off and started again with a Leupold 2-7 that I had on another rifle. I started at 50mtr. and totally missed a cardboard box about 2ft square. I moved it back to 25, where I should have started and clipped one side of the box with one round. I then moved my point of aim to the other side of the box, LO AND BEHOLD two holes about an inch apart. I then adjusted the scope to put the centre of the group about where I wanted it and moved the target back to 50mtr.

Settling down at my transportable bench (one of those cheap folding vice/benches you can buy at most hardwares) and using sand bags I proceeded to put a couple of boxes of ammo through it. I started with 180 gr Remington corloks and consistently got L&R grouping around 1.5 inches in a 2oc / 8oc pattern. I fine tuned the scope and was happy as a pig in the proverbial. But there was better to come. I then changed to 150gr Rem. and tried again. The only thing that happened, the group shrunk to 1- 1.25 inches. I then tried 125gr Win, and the group opened out to 1.5 - 1.75 inches. For all practical purposes the groups at 50mtr hardly varied as to point of impact of the group centre. At no point did I need to change the regulation. I then gave my mate a go at the bench and the only thing that changed the groups move about 2 inches to the left. He is a left hander and was delighted not to be reaching over the rifle to reach a bolt. I finished off with a few hunting type shots, with a side tree rest and free standing shots.

One thing I found with my 9.3 was that it was easy to do what I did with the first couple of shots and over adjust the regulation. Only move the wheel a minimal amount at a time or you can cross them over without realizing that you have. They might be cheap and not so pretty but they work.
Does anybody out there know of any real problems with these rifles? Everybody seems to concentrate on the possibility of what may happen if they are overloaded, but the same applies to old BPE rifles
with Damascus barrels when loading nitro for black loads. The only problem I have found so far is the triggers, they are bloody awful.

Al the best and god shooting, Ian.

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