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Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S
29/07/08 10:11 PM

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I am inclined to seek one of these but still interested to know about the 500/.416 Heym that make. No one ever mentions it, is this because it's not a traditional NE calibre or is there some problem with it?

Both. It's a good cartridge, but it has some baggage. It's relatively new (1991 - and, given the very low volume of the double rifle world, that makes it very, very new), and it's also the highest pressure of the over .375 double rifle rounds. Brass and factory ammo are not as well distributed as the others. I think the primary problem with the .500/.416 is the widespread perception that it kicks just as hard as rifles of the same weight in the .450/.470 group, so why not just go ahead and get a .450 or .470?

The .400 doesn't suffer from that. The gap in double rifle cartridges between .400 and .450 existed for 90+ years because the .400 was so good, and that's also why it was the most popular of the over .40 DR rounds. Now that Hornady has introduced .400 ammunition in addition to Kynoch and Romey, and we have Krieghoff, Demas and others following Heym in building rifles for the cartridge again, I think the .500/.416 will become an even harder sell.

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If monoblocks are not as good as shoe lumps, APART FROM THE VISIBLE EVIDENCE, can someone please remind me why?

You got it. Again, it's a matter of perception. As the cheapest method of barrel construction for double guns, mono-bloc has been used to make a lot of what fails to rise to the level of cheap junk. It's also been used to make fine double guns. Done well, the only difference is the visible seam (it can also be done seamlessly). As the price rises though, that seam can become unacceptable to some traditionalists who expect different construction methods for the price point (guilty), even though mono-bloc isn't technically inferior. That's why Heym will do it both ways, and they're not the only DR maker that offers different construction methods according to what the customer prefers.

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Are disc-set strikers still a big deal, or is that just a sidelock issue?

Obviously not with the Heym. I've never heard of an issue with one due to the lack of bushed pins.

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New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	lapua	26/07/08 09:58 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Bighammer	07/08/08 06:06 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	lapua	07/08/08 07:30 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	ozhunter	07/08/08 08:12 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	lapua	08/08/08 11:41 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	CptCurl	29/07/08 07:07 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	NitroX	29/07/08 05:18 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Paul	29/07/08 05:58 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	400NitroExpress	29/07/08 10:11 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	eljefedouble	30/07/08 05:13 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	lapua	30/07/08 07:41 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	BigFiveJack	07/08/08 04:04 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Paul	30/07/08 01:52 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	DUGABOY1	01/08/08 07:28 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Paul	01/08/08 03:03 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	ozhunter	01/08/08 06:58 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Paul	04/08/08 02:56 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	ozhunter	04/08/08 06:17 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Paul	04/08/08 06:41 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	ozhunter	04/08/08 09:33 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Paul	05/08/08 10:00 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	hoppdoc	01/08/08 08:09 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	ChrisPer	30/07/08 02:49 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Paul	30/07/08 05:44 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	400NitroExpress	28/07/08 02:24 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	EricD	28/07/08 04:39 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	lapua	28/07/08 10:00 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	NitroX	26/07/08 07:15 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Antlers	27/07/08 06:34 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	lapua	27/07/08 11:02 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	4seventy	27/07/08 07:34 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Ripp	28/07/08 10:13 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	CptCurl	28/07/08 10:45 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	new_guy	28/07/08 11:23 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S DELETED	EricD	29/07/08 02:14 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	hoppdoc	29/07/08 06:00 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	ChrisPer	29/07/08 01:12 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	GarBy	28/07/08 12:47 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B 450/400 3 " PHOTO'S	Bill_Cooley	27/07/08 11:01 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B PHOTO'S	tophet1	26/07/08 10:42 AM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B PHOTO'S	hoppdoc	26/07/08 02:43 PM
Re: New HEYM SAFARI 88B PHOTO'S	Cinghiale	26/07/08 05:27 PM

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