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DUGABOY1
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Re: Lead sled and stocks
      23/05/08 07:56 AM

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The reason the LS is not good for use with a side by side double rifle is the rifle is not allowed to recoil UP, and to the SIDE, because the butt is jammed down into the fixture being held bottom, and both sides!

You can rest the rifle on a sand bag up front, but your hand needs to be between the rifle, and the sand bag, and gripping the for barrels. Standing or sitting at a bench is OK, but the rifle should be held in the hands, and touching only the face, and shoulder, however the back of the forehand, and the elbows can be rested on the bench. It makes no difference if the bench is a standing, or sitting, as long as the rifle doesn't touch anything other that the shooters hands, face, and shoulder! I fail to see what is so hard to understand about that!





Your thoughts on constricting barrel movement when it’s being fired certainly make sense, but knowing that the Lead Sled doesn’t do that, I’m thinking the condemnation might be a bit overblown.




I never said the LS restricts the side recoil of the barrels, but if the hand is not holding the barrels, as if shooting off hand, the the side, and up recoil is exagerated, and the resting of the toe of the butt on anything, be it bag, or the bottom of the butt fixture of the lead sled, is detremental to a S/S double rifle's shooting to the regulation of the rifle! As long as you hold the foreend, the thing that is a problem with the side recoil is that it causes torque on the butt stock because of the sides of the LS's butt fixture restricts the side recoil enough to strain the weakest part of the butt stock, the wrist. I have one of the lead sleds, and with a bolt rifle it works fine, because the rifle only recoil up and back. Addtionally, if you shoot a heavy recoiling S/S double rifle off sticks, without holding the fore-end it will not regulate properly either! I have zero problem with the lead sled with an O/U double rifle, or any bolt/single shot rifle. However it is not designed to be used with a s/s double,especially for the regulating process, nor is any other mechanical rest, unless the rifle is held as if being shot off hand! You, or anyone else may do as it pleases you, the rifles used in that case are yours! My S/S doubles will not though!

People seem to think they can bypass the tried, and true method of regulation of a barrel set, by the use of some fixture, or jig, and it will not work, for anything other than getting a starting point, at close range. For the building of a barrel of sets for double rifles ,every short-cut, ever thought up, has been tried, and none will negate the old method. This is what 450_366 is attempting to do, and I say, lead sled, or jig, it simply does not not work well with S/S double rifles!

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* Lead sled and stocks Mike_Bailey 16/05/08 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Spring   22/05/08 03:49 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 450_366   22/05/08 07:44 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DUGABOY1   23/05/08 04:14 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Spring   23/05/08 05:16 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DUGABOY1   23/05/08 07:56 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 450_366   23/05/08 08:14 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DUGABOY1   23/05/08 08:53 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks bigmaxx   23/05/08 10:29 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks mickey   23/05/08 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   23/05/08 02:30 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Mike_Bailey   23/05/08 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Paul   23/05/08 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   23/05/08 10:42 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   22/05/08 05:53 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Ripp   19/05/08 08:07 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   20/05/08 10:22 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks bwananelson   20/05/08 11:18 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks xausa   20/05/08 02:50 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   21/05/08 01:57 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DarylS   21/05/08 02:37 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Bill_Cooley   21/05/08 12:30 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DarylS   22/05/08 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DUGABOY1   17/05/08 06:21 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Mike_Bailey   17/05/08 07:24 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DUGABOY1   18/05/08 10:08 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Mike_Bailey   18/05/08 10:35 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DUGABOY1   19/05/08 01:25 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks mickey   19/05/08 02:06 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks DUGABOY1   19/05/08 03:16 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Mike_Bailey   19/05/08 03:25 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 450_366   19/05/08 08:03 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   19/05/08 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks bwananelson   19/05/08 02:26 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 450_366   19/05/08 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks bipbigbore   23/05/08 11:26 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Spring   24/05/08 02:58 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks bwananelson   25/05/08 02:36 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   25/05/08 11:01 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks k80   24/05/08 11:14 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Mike_Bailey   19/05/08 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Bramble   19/05/08 08:00 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Bill_Cooley   19/05/08 07:55 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Bramble   17/05/08 11:08 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   17/05/08 11:26 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Bramble   17/05/08 12:05 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   17/05/08 12:18 PM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Mike_Bailey   18/05/08 06:31 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   18/05/08 09:18 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks Bramble   18/05/08 09:44 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks 9.3x57   17/05/08 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks xausa   17/05/08 03:56 AM
. * * Re: Lead sled and stocks butchloc   17/05/08 04:46 AM

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