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Marrakai
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Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?
02/05/08 08:31 PM

I have a leg in each camp here.

Firstly, I wouldn't dream of using fillers in full nitro loads, but then I don't use RE-powders ever. ADI (..or Hodgdon 'Extreme' powders) are bulky enough not to require wads or dacron. There is usually a small air-space, but load densities are probably in the order of 95%. No cause for concern there!

(Note exception: .450 #2 and .475 #2 probably benefit from filler, even with ADI/Hodgdon 'Extreme' powders)

Secondly, most 'nitro-for-black' loads DO need filler or wads, and I strongly prefer saddle-felt over foam or dacron/kapok, as others here must know by now. I have concerns over the longevity of polyurethane foam in the monsoon tropics where I live, as it breaks down to a crumbly or gooey mess in a couple of years when used as packing, or in boot-soles, luggage padding, etc. Wool felt, on the other hand, has been retrieved intact from pharoahs' tombs!

I have also found foam to be 'grippy' on the internal case walls, such that it can be compressed within the loaded cartridge by the powder charge if transported bullet-down, and then remain so, causing air-space between the powder-column and the compressed wad.

This is just my long-winded way of agreeing whole-heartedly with the posts of Bill and others:

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it is not the use of fillers that is dangerous but the improper use that is

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470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Westley375	22/04/08 11:00 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Ripp	22/04/08 11:06 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	k80	23/04/08 11:07 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	DoubleD	23/04/08 01:30 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	k80	24/04/08 12:31 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	starwars	24/04/08 01:15 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	NE450No2	24/04/08 01:50 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Bramble	24/04/08 10:35 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Will	26/04/08 09:51 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	farshot	25/04/08 03:01 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Bramble	25/04/08 07:58 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	CapeGunner	25/04/08 08:42 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	JabaliHunter	25/04/08 08:16 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	nopride2	28/04/08 10:17 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Will	28/04/08 09:22 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Ripp	28/04/08 11:06 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Bill_Cooley	29/04/08 01:05 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	9.3x57	02/05/08 12:45 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	wadeb	08/05/08 12:38 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Bill_Cooley	05/05/08 03:24 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	bwananelson	05/05/08 10:34 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Bill_Cooley	07/05/08 10:19 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Marrakai	02/05/08 08:31 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	k80	02/05/08 11:35 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Mike_Bailey	29/04/08 06:40 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Bill_Cooley	30/04/08 01:16 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	DoubleD	28/04/08 03:54 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	k80	25/04/08 10:55 AM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	Ripp	23/04/08 12:39 PM
Re: 470 NE R15 and Foam Filler?	DoubleD	22/04/08 12:46 PM

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