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ThomasEdwards
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9.3 vs. 375hh
      29/02/04 07:51 AM

mickey,

...appreciate your advice re the 9.3 double...

...re the 9.3 vs. 375hh, don't mean to dispute your views, and only note that many writers with extensive field experience with the 9.3 (x62 or x74r)(e.g., robertson, woods, taylor, etc.) say that it is perfectly adequate for buff and other similarly sized dg...indeed, when i look at the ballistics tables prepared by norma (see below post), i really can't see the advantage of the 375hh over the 9.3, unless the norma charts are not correct...

...what i really like about the 9.3 is the mating of the cartridge with a light, easily-carried, compact and manouverable double rifle, and the fact that you can obtain 375hh-like power and range with the recoil of a 270win/30.06...

...on this point, also wondering why the 375 flanged is not more popular?...lack of available cartridge makers?...limited gunmakers (e.g., uk vs. continental maker issue)?...

...lastly, seems to me the only choices for those who prefer rimmed-cartridge doubles is the 9.3x74r or 470ne...sort of like a 375hh vs. 458wm analogy in the turnbolt world...carrying that analogy forward, that would imply a need for a 416 rigby-like alternative in the rimmed market, which is what kreighoff has been aiming for with the introduction of the 416/500 round, i would suppose...

...alas, more food for argument and debate...


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...i posted the below attached message on another chat board that may somewhat answer your question on whether to select a double in 9,3x74r or 375 flanged...

...as you may note, the norma ballistics charts show that the 9,3 may be superior to both the 375 flanged and the 375hh rounds in factory loadings at distances beyond 100 yards...

...of course those with extensive hunting experience may provide further insight on the actual field results of the various cartridges...

...if you go to www.norma.cc you will find a graphical ballistics chart that visually plots the trajectory, v and me of various cartridges that norma manufactures...

...for comparison purposes, and since my focus was on pre-regulated double rifles, i assumed the use of standard factory ammunition with bullets that i would actual use on a hunt (9,3 with 285 grain orxy; 375 with 300 grain barnes solid)...

...at 100 yards, the norma chart indicates the following results: 9,3/375 v = 2110fps vs. 2054fps; me = 2820flbs vs. 2812flbs...also, the 9,3 trajectory is flatter than both the 375 flanged and the 375hh...

...i am sure that a hand-loaded 375hh round in a bolt action single would easily surpass the 9,3 in all relevant criteria...however, for my purposes, and given my preference for doubles, the 9,3 appears more than satisfactory for my requirements state-side and abroad...i also note that featured phs in the african hunter magazine (e.g., ganyana) favor the similar 9,3x62 for all species of game, dangerous included...

...i suppose this is what makes our sport uniquely delightful, the ability to consciously choose a personalized 'tool' for your hunting quest in terms of action, barreling, calibre, bullet, etc...i also suppose there are no right answers, but given my distain for my bulkier, heavier bolt/falling block actions (416 rigby/458win.mag.), the 9,3 seems to suit me well at this point, and to be sufficiently adequate for my hunting needs...


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* Doule guns 8x56mn 29/02/04 01:57 AM
. * * Re: Doule guns 475Guy   29/02/04 06:53 AM
. * * Re: Doule guns mickey   29/02/04 03:04 AM
. * * 9.3 vs. 375hh ThomasEdwards   29/02/04 07:51 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh mickey   29/02/04 08:26 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh 475Guy   29/02/04 08:57 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh mickey   29/02/04 10:17 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh 475Guy   29/02/04 10:42 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh atkinson6   01/03/04 03:29 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh 475Guy   01/03/04 05:25 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh 500grains   01/03/04 06:47 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh 475Guy   01/03/04 07:08 AM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh 8x56mn   01/03/04 07:23 PM
. * * Re: 9.3 vs. 375hh ThomasEdwards   29/02/04 08:46 AM

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