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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Paradox Tools by H&H
      #82041 - 08/07/07 09:35 PM

Holts UK recently auctioned these tools which made in excess of $3000-00 Australian.
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Edited by ALAN_MCKENZIE (19/12/07 01:05 AM)


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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #82042 - 08/07/07 10:04 PM



Alan,

What's the problem with that ?

Normal pricing from what I can see.


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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: 500Nitro]
      #82048 - 08/07/07 11:04 PM

DID I SAY THERE WAS A PROBLEM ???

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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #82050 - 08/07/07 11:21 PM

For the uninitiated, what are each of them and what is their function?

Thanks!,

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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #82052 - 08/07/07 11:25 PM

OK what are they and how are they different from normal muzzle loading bullet casting?

Obviously one is a bullet mould. What do the other two do?

Guesses?

The little "press" closes the paradox/shotgun crimp or inserts the projectile?

The hand tool cuts a cannelure in the lead bullet?

(posted same time as SteveH)

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Edited by NitroX (08/07/07 11:29 PM)


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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: NitroX]
      #82055 - 08/07/07 11:33 PM

Thanks Alan for posting pictures...Everything with paradox is always intersting...

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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: NitroX]
      #82068 - 09/07/07 02:03 AM

It is a mold, sizer and fixer. The little press sizes the bullet, the pliers crimps the bullet in the case.
I thought the price was a little high considering the mold has a bolt in the bottom instead of the hollow point punch.

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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: gatsby]
      #82084 - 09/07/07 06:23 AM

Okay, cool. I figured the bottom one was a mold. The swagger (sizer) makes since. Wouldn't have figured out the fixer.

Thanks guys!

-Steve


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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: gatsby]
      #82100 - 09/07/07 02:58 PM

Gatsby,here is a hollow point handle plug and mould with some projectiles I have cast.
12 bore H&H ,hollows 810 gns,solids 860 gns.

Al

Edited by ALAN_MCKENZIE (09/07/07 03:00 PM)


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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #82102 - 09/07/07 05:20 PM

Alan,
Beautiful old mold and an unusually heavy bullet weight for a paradox. You had posted your mold weight before and I had mentioned it to another collector/owner who had your bullet weight copied. He developed a load and took the gun and that bullet to Africa recently in search of elephant.

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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: gatsby]
      #82105 - 09/07/07 08:18 PM

Quote:

It is a mold, sizer and fixer. The little press sizes the bullet, the pliers crimps the bullet in the case.
I thought the price was a little high considering the mold has a bolt in the bottom instead of the hollow point punch.




Thanks. Makes sense.

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Re: Paradox Tools by H&H [Re: gatsby]
      #82106 - 09/07/07 09:02 PM

Gatsby,I would be very interested to know what sort of load you mate developed and what type of shells he used(plastic or brass) and the results of his African trip.
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