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AspenHill
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Anchoring Shots?
      #72100 - 21/02/07 09:53 AM

So in some of the books I have read some of the hunters took anchoring shots, such as hip joint, spine or shoulder shots to disable/stop DBG like elephant and buffalo. From there, since at least elephant cannot travel on three legs, the hunter proceded to finish the animal.

What are your thoughts on such a method? It's not something I would personally favor but maybe some of you would have good reason to do so?

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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: AspenHill]
      #72109 - 21/02/07 10:59 AM

I don't know about the "Good Ole Days" when market hunters used this method, however, I'd think a large perecentage of these type shots today are most likely shots that just slightly missed their intended placement.

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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: AzGuy]
      #72157 - 21/02/07 08:31 PM

I have not read about these shots being taken as a first shot but rather at the hind end of a departing animal. I think it would make sense in that situation if no other targets were available.

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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: AspenHill]
      #72158 - 21/02/07 09:14 PM

I think if you are a good enough shot to do such a thing you are certainly good enough to make a clean kill.However if there is no choice,as the animal is getting away an anchoring shot may be taken.To purposely maim an animal amounts to cruelty in my book.

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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: iqbal]
      #72172 - 22/02/07 02:24 AM


As the poster said correctly above, "rather at the hind end of a departing animal" - I would add an already wounded animal.

On Water Buffalo, even a good solid hit to the vitals will not always drop it on the spot so if the animal is hit and turns and runs, I automatically go for either hip, deending on which side I am on.

I have found on numerous occasions the HIP shot to be very effective for stopping an animal from continuing to run away,
allowing a coup de grace shot.

If using an FMJ, it genrally keep going through to the vitals anyway - and sometimes on and out !


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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #72186 - 22/02/07 04:45 AM

Ann,
as many enthousiasts I have marvelled at the way your anchored an elephant in a tricky situation.

Once I tempted an anchoring shot .........with reluctance. It was with a wounded red buffalo. The only solution was a Texas heart short for we could only see his backside. I didn't dare because of the horns................Yes the horns, that were clearly protuding and I was afraid to break one with a misplaced shot.
The same with the best warthog I have ever seen. I couldn't shoot him when facing, the tusks were so impressive. Then he turned and went back and once again I was afraid to shoot one of his tusks.
I suppose an elephant (I never hunted ele) let more place to shoot and is more coveted. In fact it's instinctive. If one is sure that the game is finished, unconsciously one can let him get away.
I feel ashame, but in Europe or Africa, I have the tendancy to let a finished trophy go. Should it not wear nice horns or antlers I think nothing of emptying my magasin.
Ann You are showing the worst of myself in the limelight

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Edited by larcher (22/02/07 04:46 AM)


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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: AspenHill]
      #72237 - 22/02/07 12:57 PM

Quote:

So in some of the books I have read some of the hunters took anchoring shots, such as hip joint, spine or shoulder shots to disable/stop DBG like elephant and buffalo. From there, since at least elephant cannot travel on three legs, the hunter proceded to finish the animal.




There is nothing wrong with a front shoulder shot on a buffalo with a suitable calibre as the lungs, arteries and/or heart may also be damaged.

Same with a spine shot especially to the neck. May kill outright or incapacitate the beast. The danger with a neck spine shot is missing the spine, as the buffalo may escape, perhaps with a painful and serious injury.

I too have read in books where for example in very thick jungle the hunter has taken a rear hip shot on an elephant (all that he could see) to drop it, and then additional shots to kill it. I do not think that is appropriate in sporting hunting, but if the elephant was a man killing rogue elephant and not hunted for sporting purposes it might be justified under different criteria.

Generally though an "anchoring" shot in sporting cicumstances should only be taken if an already wounded dangerous beast may escape. It is better to anchor it quickly then if no killing shot is immediately available.

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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: NitroX]
      #72596 - 27/02/07 06:17 AM

On DG, I believe in shooting until the game is down, and then shooting it again. As many cartridges will not penetrate the full length of a buff, hippo or ele, an anchoring shot in the hip socket or top of the spine may be the best bet if the animal did not drop to the first bullet.

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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: 500grains]
      #72658 - 28/02/07 01:45 AM

While hunting buffalo with my friend in Zim, he made a good killing shot on a buffalo with his 375 and 300gr Swift A Frames at about 25 yards. The buff staggered and he whacked him two more times, all three shots within a 4" triangle on the shoulder. I was watching the action with the trackers atop a big rock. As Todd and the PH approached the buffalo to give him an insurance shot, he reared, and I mean REARED up on his front legs and as his back end slowly came up, I gave him a 400gr Swift from my 416 right in the pelvic girdle while he simultaneoulsy received two more shots right behind the shoulder angling forward (they were approaching him correctly slightly from behind) with the 375 and a 458 solid. The impact of the 400gr 416 on his pelvis was instantaneous and he went down for the count and bellowed. Keep shooting and then shoot some more. jorge


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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: jorge]
      #72698 - 28/02/07 07:46 AM

I had already put one soft in the chest of this Water buffalo,this was a follow up shot as i ran after him. 375 soild the bullet reached the vitals.


With the very limited dangerous game hunting i have done,i kept shooting till the animals fell down and then put in a finishing shot.

I think it was PHC that said "It's the dead ones that kill you"

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Re: Anchoring Shots? [Re: TOP_PREDATOR]
      #72779 - 01/03/07 12:53 AM

Any debiliting shots is worth tempting for fear of loosing the game or in order not to be mauled or trampled.
The attempts are made at the central nervous system or the spine or at the locomotor organs, especially the hip.
It remains that one can be worried by spoiling the trophy or the hide.

Jorge has a point with the DEATH BELLOW

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