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Best Single Shot Actions
#70345 - 28/01/07 04:07 PM

I like the Dan'l Fraser sidelever falling block 1880 and 1897 guns best, and then the Hagn systems and Heeren... How about you?

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: ]
#70351 - 28/01/07 06:07 PM

Best quality Gibbs are nice. I like my Westley too. Top tang safety really is nice. It must be old and British to really get my attetion. I know of a great large bore best quality .577 3" Rigby on a Webely. action. I would own a double rifle if I could stop myself from buying more falling blocks. I really like the hagn for a new gun. Good stuff these single shots.
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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: bouldersmith]
#70356 - 28/01/07 09:53 PM

The very best of them all, IMHO, is the Hagn, its construction is superior to everything else. Next is maybe the Dakota, more or less a copy of Hagn's design, at least he said so when I visited him in 1990. But I doubt that, to me it looks like a totally different action.
Since I cannot afford either of the rifles mentioned, I am looking for a Browning 1885 High Wall as a basis for a custom hunting rifle, this action is also of remarkable quality and I like the exposed hammer.
As I said, just my humble opinion.

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: Kalunga]
#70367 - 29/01/07 01:04 AM

For me? My taste runs Martini - simple, solid, easy. It will take anything thrown in its direction, and in Modern steels, it would be up there with the best. The Field falling block is also quite nice (and very simple), and the Fraser falling block, now... Sheer luxury! No exposed hammers for me!

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: belgmart]
#70383 - 29/01/07 07:45 AM

I see Brockman's is going to make a falling block with one piece stock. I looked at in Reno and the prototype looks very interesting. Weighed in around 6 pounds in a light caliber I think.

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: mickey]
#70594 - 01/02/07 05:33 AM

Mick,

doesn't look extremely light to me - I have a Bonehill Martini sporter in 500/450 #2 Musket which tips the scales at maybe 6.5 pounds tops. And that is not a light caliber...

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: belgmart]
#70719 - 03/02/07 06:28 AM

My all-time favortie is the Winchester Low Wall, but they are very limited for scope sights.
This one I built as a .22lr, a poor photo from a gopher shoot.

I've built several using Dakota actions but have to do radical alterations to the lever and add new bench-made guard and trigger.

The absolute best for a modern hunting rifle is the Hagn. Martin Hagn invented the action after Hartman, of Hartman & Weiss, had a failure with a Heeren on an Alaskan hunt. This is one in process of metal reshaping at my bench.

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: SDH]
#70756 - 04/02/07 12:12 AM

SDH,
You shouldn't tempt poor defenceless people like that! You'll have me short out my keyboard from all my drooling...

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: SDH]
#70771 - 04/02/07 07:11 AM

Wow never heard of a failure with a heeren action, they are built like a tank!

Edited by droplock101 (04/02/07 10:56 AM)

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: ]
#70778 - 04/02/07 09:18 AM

Droplock, I don't know anything about the Heeren but it better be good because atttactive it is not. Reminds me of a Comblain (and a combine, come to think of it...maybe an old Gleaner). It seems like it would be counter-intuitive to operate, the wrong end of the trigger guard goes down. Also what is the deal with that trigger? Maybe a single set? Do they shoot reasonably well?

Josh

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: ]
#70815 - 05/02/07 11:24 AM

Apparently it wouldn't chamber a slightly squashed cartridge. Lacking leverage, not strength.

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: Sharps]
#70875 - 06/02/07 07:20 AM

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Droplock, I don't know anything about the Heeren but it better be good because atttactive it is not. Reminds me of a Comblain (and a combine, come to think of it...maybe an old Gleaner). It seems like it would be counter-intuitive to operate, the wrong end of the trigger guard goes down. Also what is the deal with that trigger? Maybe a single set? Do they shoot reasonably well?

Josh

I suppose everyone has there own taste, cheers to that. Actually there very easy to operate and alot of fun to shoot. The push hinge at the front of the dropout trigger mechanism releases the block and exposes the trigger itself, which imho looks really slick in person. They look like two trigger levers or set triggers, however it is not what it appears to be. The rear lever is used as a spring to set the sear to fire. When fired it sets itself back (unsprung) only needing a push of a thumb to reset. The Heeren makes for a very fun, accurate single shot.

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: ]
#70890 - 06/02/07 12:28 PM

Drop, I really didn't mean for that post to sound quite as critical as it came out. Quality is always impressive to me, whatever the shape. I did find a picture of the Comblain that I remember, I suppose it is that trigger arrangement that caught my attention.

Here it is.

Josh

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: Sharps]
#71062 - 09/02/07 07:30 AM

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Drop, I really didn't mean for that post to sound quite as critical as it came out. Quality is always impressive to me, whatever the shape. I did find a picture of the Comblain that I remember, I suppose it is that trigger arrangement that caught my attention.

Here it is.

Josh

No worries, I can see how you could see the simularity in trigger formation. Though different as they are.

Cheers.

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: Kalunga]
#74926 - 29/03/07 08:03 AM

My nomination would be the Sharps Borschardt, a totally modern hammerless (as opposed to concealed hammer) action, suitable for everything from a light stalking rifle, to an express rifle, to a long range target rifle, to a Schuetzen rifle. I own three originals and three duplicate originals made by that prince of gunmiths, Argus Barker. Several more are on order.

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: xausa]
#74975 - 29/03/07 09:38 PM

Ditto on the Sharps Borschardt. I had a custom varmint rifle chambered in .225 Winchester built on a Sharps Borschardt action. It was the demise of many a groundhog. Keenly accurate! I really should not have let it go.

Curl

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Re: Best Single Shot Actions [Re: CptCurl]
#77299 - 24/04/07 10:22 AM

Hagn, and while the Dakota is also very good, early ones could not be dryfired at all without risk of snapping the pin. Dave

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