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empirevr
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well known gunsmith arrested
      #62696 - 20/09/06 01:20 AM

Many of you i am sure have come across Mick Shephered of micksguns.com and perhaps purchased off him before also?

I found him only recently,and noticed his good prices on rare guns.......

Well he has been arrested for arms trafficking and prohibited weapons use.

Oh dear........

I wonder if the police got it right?

Anyway tut tut tut.........not good at all.

Cheerio

Ben


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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: empirevr]
      #62698 - 20/09/06 02:24 AM

No, not good.

I'll be interested to see what comes of this.
He's had a rather interesting stock of items for the past few years at least.


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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: tinker]
      #62700 - 20/09/06 02:30 AM

Indeed.

I worry always though with our laws/police.....tend to jump first and ask later.

I remember when in Falmouth a young lad of 19 was shot by sniper as he had a samurai sword in his hand. shot and killed.

Another chap had a table leg.

But aside from this, i worry that they imagined something or that there was some form of conspiracy against him due to his huge number of guns.

Thing is he seemed like a normal as can be gun dealer chap, his main interest was older guns......

His prices were good,and i was keen to have a chat with him. Ah well.

Ben


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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: empirevr]
      #62706 - 20/09/06 06:05 AM

One has to wonder if he didn't run afoul of the law out of simple ignorance. He isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

The last time I looked at his site, he had a no-name Belgian guild rifle for sale. Belgian rifles are proved for either lead or jacketed bullets, and thus are marked "B. Plomb" for Balle Plomb, which means "lead bullet", or "B. Blindee" for Balle Blindee, which means "plated (jacketed) bullet". This rifle was proved for jacketed bullets. Although it's been awhile, I remember that his ad said something like "made by the celebrated master gunmaker B. Blindee". What a scream.
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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #62707 - 20/09/06 06:21 AM

This made me laugh as well !
This "Bill" Blindee maker had to be pretty prolific, and I can't find him in my Liege directory...
Hopefully, this dealer did not do anything bad, or he'll have lots of time to study the basics.
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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: WildCattle]
      #62708 - 20/09/06 06:33 AM

Hi

Yes well i think he was into winchesters etc more.......

Well let me tell you.......its tough for any gunners in Blighty. Believe me they really dont want anyone having guns there.....im talking of the police as much as the public.....not all,but most.

Anyway, thankgod i moved somewhere where i can have my beloved express rifles,and webley revolvers......must get a S&W though......

Cheers

Ben


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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #62715 - 20/09/06 07:38 AM

I caught that one too, and emailed him right away asking for him to keep an eye out for a twelve bore gun from that great maker.

Imagine the twelve bore rifle proofed for nitro and jacketed bullets!!!
Twelve guage from hell?



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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: tinker]
      #62716 - 20/09/06 07:43 AM

Tinker........

You too are after a 12 bore rifle eh?

As am i......though paradox would be ideal,i'd certainly consider a full rifle or smooth bore.....

Brilliant piece of kit old chap.....

An antique with many uses,no? imagine this......ball,conical,and shot......then imagine that in smokeless powder.

Ben


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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: empirevr]
      #62722 - 20/09/06 09:15 AM

I do appreciate the paradox guns.
I also already own two 16b SxS cartridge double rifles, really nice equipment!

My email to Mick there back when was purely dry humor from my end, and I really doubt he got it.
I don't expect to see any Belgian cartridge gun in 12b with the jacketed bullet stamp, although I'd be very interested in seeing one!


All of the Paradox guns I've seen (even the handguns) had been set up for non-jacketed cast lead bullets with single deep grease grooves.



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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: empirevr]
      #62725 - 20/09/06 10:00 AM

Unfortunately Mick had for sale both an 8 and 12 bore paradox. What do you suppose will become of them?

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: gatsby]
      #62727 - 20/09/06 11:25 AM

So,well.....

What a nuisance.....

Dont suppose you remember the price of the 12 bore paradox?

I never noticed it,not to say it would have helped if i had......

I hope they clear him.

Anyway guns will be at police auctions.......

Not my cup of tea there thanks,i wish the chap the best of luck as i have many doubts about all this......

Ben


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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: empirevr]
      #62728 - 20/09/06 12:07 PM

It auctioned not long ago and went, I suppose to Mick for about 4000.00 dollars and he had it marked up slightly. That gun sold cheaply because of the #'s mismatch, itwas a Holland.

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: gatsby]
      #62730 - 20/09/06 12:29 PM

I will write a letter to George Bush and urge him to grant political refugee status to all British gunmakers, gun sellers, and shooters.



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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: 500grains]
      #62752 - 20/09/06 07:44 PM

Dan

In a few years time I can see that being a real proposition, we had the shooting of a 15 year old youth here only last week, shot several times with a 9mm semi- auto pistol, possibly by another youth, the Police think it is either gang realted or a possible mistaken identity.

Hand guns have been outlawed here since the Dunblane massacre in the late 1990's, still handguns are available to criminals to this day, our governements response is to say they will look again at tightening our laws on gun ownership.

As long as all criminals register their guns to start with, I think this could well work

We lost the right to possess semi auto rifles (other than ,.22 rim-fire) after the Hungerford shootings in the late 1980s.

We cannot own pump and semi- auto shotguns with mag capacities greater than 2 shots unless they are licensed as a firearm rather than a shotgun, there is a vast difference in licensing and use requirement for the two different weapons.

Hand guns (other than muzzle loading pistols) went in the late 1990's as did the automatic right to possess expanding rifle ammunition, including soft nosed and hollow point hunting bullets without special authority on your license having been granted.

The Blair government have stated only last year that they intend to re-visit the issue of gun-ownership and look at reviewing the gun law even further.

One proposal put forward by an anti-gun lobby was to have the front windows of all gun shops blacked out, much like sex shops are forced to do here, so as not to offend any antis looking in, also entry into such shops would be prohibited for those under the age of 18.

The Draconian proposals then went forward seek to class air guns as firearms and have just one class of licence to cover all shotguns and firearms which would seek also impose limits on the number of guns a private individual could possess.

Only internal strife in t he Governemt and the unceremoinial sacking of the last Home Secretary by Tony Blair has so far prevented any changes, but I hear that it remains on the agenda for further review during the next session of Parliament.

In the U.S you are incredibly fortunate to have enshrined into your Constitution the Second Amndement, we have no such instrument and as such will always remain susceptible to the whims and capriciousness of any anti- gun government.

We can only dream here of having the opportunities you all enjoy in the U.S.

The incident described above with Mick Sheppard was mentioned on all major news bulletins, seemingly the police raid was carried out in conjunction with consecutive raids i the US by the FBI as part of a world wide investigation into arms trafficking.

The film footage showed armed Police removing large numbers of weapons including semi- automatic rifles like the FN SLR, M-15 (16?) and even some from the AK 47 family. If Mr. Sheppard did not posess authority form the Home Office to posess such weapons then he will undoubteldy face imprisonment, I think the maximum terms for such offences is presently 5 years and a hefty fine, the guns, if semi- auto would also be confiscated and destroyed.

I understand he has already been before the court on a number of offences but to date have not heard of any outcome.


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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: JTOMLINSON]
      #62757 - 20/09/06 08:18 PM

The irony is that gun freedoms are fully preserved in a place like Afghanistan where everyone can walk around with an AK, but the move 'civilized' a society, the more freedoms are lost.

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: JTOMLINSON]
      #62760 - 21/09/06 12:07 AM

How sad when the populace of a country let themselves be
enslaved by politicians.The right and ability to defend oneself from harm is universal and may all those politicos who disarm innocents for their own political benefit and power roast in HELL.

I am indeed fortunate to reside in the US and wear a concealed handgun daily, not as a lawman but as a civilian.I can't hunt year round but I shoot handguns 2x a week just for grins.The county sheriff is a good friend and hunting partner.One time we looked and counted ammo and we had 2 compact handguns, one back up revolver and almost 50 rounds of ammunition on our persons!

I seek to be prudent and will always avoid conflict but I am determined not to be a victim of some predatory evil. It is my right and I will have the ability to exercise it if I must.

The PEOPLE of a country must demand their rights.You must fight for it or loose it!!

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: hoppdoc]
      #62763 - 21/09/06 12:54 AM

Gatsby...

S*d it.......that 12 bore would have gone down a treat........

Ever heard of the Lyon & Lyon jungle gun???

Yes we have problems about not fighting for our rights......stiff upper lip i guess.........

You guys are lucky in the US and Canada.....

Italy is much better though,again thanks to a huge and strong gun/hunting lobby.......

Ben


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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: empirevr]
      #62769 - 21/09/06 02:00 AM

Ben:

I sincerely hope that things stay that way in Italy. You poor Brits should certainly qualify for political refugee status. I hope things don't get any worse in the UK, but they probably will.
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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #62786 - 21/09/06 04:58 AM

400nitro et al.......

Thankyou for the support.......

If things get as down right ridiculous here as they are in Blighty, then USA/Canada here i come......!!!

I dont ask for m16's,nor uzi's......but i do ask for the right to have a lovely old DR or two,maybe a classic revolver, few shotguns, a mauser......

Really though,i stand with all other shooters who just like to shoot,hunt,or collect......

All the best

Cheers for now

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: empirevr]
      #62787 - 21/09/06 05:17 AM

Typical Media and Police Melodrama, butthere are a couple things about this that bother me. See emphsis below.


Met Police seize 'biggest weapons haul of its kind'

Publisher: Ian Morgan
Published: 13/09/2006 - 15:36:16 PM

Dartford arms haul. Photo: PA

Relevant News
Hundreds of firearms seized in Dartford dawn raids

Hundreds of firearms were seized from a suburban house today in the biggest weapons haul of its kind by the Metropolitan Police.

Officers from Operation Trident raided the semi-detached property in Dartford, Kent, at 6am and discovered a cache of pump action shotguns, automatic and semi-automatic weapons.

A 55-year-old man was arrested at the house on suspicion of supplying firearms from a residential address.

The property is listed under the name of Michael Shepherd, a registered gun dealer who runs a website advertising the guns he sells. Locals referred to him as Mick.

A second home and a business address were searched nearby, but nothing of significance was found.

A linked operation was carried out in New Jersey, US, where a 40-year-old man was questioned.

Detective Superintendent Kevin Davis, from Operation Trident, which targets gun crime in the black community, said "hundreds and hundreds" of weapons were found.

"It's probably the biggest seizure of firearms that Operation Trident has had since its conception six years ago," he said.


"The premises raided were used to store hundreds and hundreds of weapons. I have never seen anything like it.

"Guns are mounted on every available wall space in the property and live ammunition was found lying on the floor.

"There are guns everywhere. It will take us at least three days to log it all and bag up the evidence.

"Some may be legal, some may not be legal."

The raids were part of Operation Mokpo, launched 18 months ago after a series of shootings by rival gangs in north London.

Mr Davis said officers entered the property at about 6am with a search warrant and that it was "peaceful and calmly undertaken".

"There was no risk to members of the public in the house or to officers."

The search by Trident officers and Polsa search teams is expected to continue at the property for the next couple of days.

Twelve plain-clothes police officers raided the three-bedroom house, which has a large US flag hanging over the front porch.

A maroon Camaro car with the registration number E6 GUNS was parked outside and many of the weapons were found in a large garage at the property.

Inside the two-storey house, antique weapons were mounted on the walls.

Bullets and ammunition were found on the floor while scores of guns were propped up against the walls.

The man arrested opened the door to police wearing black boxer shorts while his wife was asleep upstairs.

At about 10.25am, he was led outside wearing a red shirt and blue jeans, with a blue towel over his head.

He was bundled into an unmarked car to be taken to a north London police station for questioning.

A Scotland Yard spokeswoman at the scene said he had been arrested on suspicion of supplying guns. She added that he was believed to have a gun licence.

"We had a spate of shootings about 18 months ago in north London. As a result of that we launched a big investigation to find out who was supplying the guns and that culminated in today's raids."

Operation Trident was set up in 1998 as a specific response to a spate of shootings and murders within the black community in the London boroughs of Lambeth and Brent.

Police were finding these crimes particularly difficult to investigate because of the unwillingness of witnesses to come forward through fear of reprisals from the criminals involved.

After the shootings and murders continued, Trident was implemented London-wide the following year. It has had a particular focus on drug-related shootings.

It exists as a dedicated operational command unit (OCU) within the Met's Specialist Crime Directorate.

Last year, Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said London faced "considerable difficulties" in the future unless gun crime in the city's black community was brought under control.

Sir Ian has made it one of his priorities to crack down on "the men of violence" through Operation Trident.


Doug Clutterbuck, 66, retired, who lives a few doors away from the house, said he first noticed the police activity when he took his grandchild to the school opposite.

"I knew that he was a gun dealer. You used to see him going down the road with guns," he said.

"We have seen plenty of iffy people. I think he used to go shooting.

"I don't think this is an area for a gun dealer, not opposite a school."

He added: "I quite like the bloke... I'm quite surprised."

Mr Shepherd was described as a well-known registered gun dealer.

Mike Yardley, from the Shooting Sports Trust, said: "Mr Shepherd is known both as a gun dealer and collector.

"He specialises in weapons of the Victorian and Edwardian period and typically holds a very large stock.

"The man has been operating a website where he has been advertising his wares for a significant period of time."

Mr Yardley described him as a kindly but eccentric man of Asian descent who is a devout Catholic and loves Elvis Presley.

"He is very hospitable but rather an eccentric chap. I have been struck by the extent of his collection which is historically significant.

"He has one of the largest private collections in the UK - it is enormous and all in a semi-detached house in Dartford."

Officers later brought out thousands of rounds of live ammunition and about 20 weapons and put them into a marked police van.

They included about seven black rifles and a number of revolvers in see-through plastic bags, some of which were silver with brown handles.

Officers said they found guns in every room of the ?250,000, four-bedroom property, except the bathroom.

A source close to the investigation said: "Some were on the walls, some on the ceiling, some in cupboards, some just lying on the floor, there was ammunition on the floor."

A Scotland Yard spokesman confirmed that a "substantial amount of cash" had been recovered from the address, and the other residential address that was also searched.

About four guns were found there, he said.

The US authorities said they had been working with the UK, investigating weapons trafficking, for the last eight months.

Special Agent Rich Marianos, of the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, said: "We have been, during the last eight months, working in conjunction with the UK authorities on an international weapons trafficking investigation.

"Today in the US, ATF is conducting follow-up investigative efforts in support of the UK's raid in Kent."

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: DoubleD]
      #62792 - 21/09/06 06:04 AM

Indeed DD,

And yet it all seems very odd........

All i know is, the police in Blighty and the public in general DO NOT support firearms enthusiasts,nor hunters either.....

Remember that there is a huge bias against anyone involved with firearms.

I wonder if they really did get it right.......its possible certainly,but also questionable.

I remember always a chap from Launceston in Cornwall.....

He was an oldish chap,decent,law abiding.....

He had a gunsmiths shop,and he stood up to the police over some rather trivial and simple matter.....cant remember what it was now....well the police took his license away,and closed him down.....they can decide such things,but he had certainly one nothing wrong,merely,he had offended them.......

Anyway hence i'll take my pinch of salt with this whole thing.....

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: empirevr]
      #62797 - 21/09/06 08:39 AM

I feel that I must put finger to key in defence of our police force.

Whilst I have no time whatsoever for the politically motivated and futile firearms laws enacted by our political masters, I have found our police force very fair and reasonable in their enforcment of those regulations.
I have a substancial collection, have never been refused permission to keep anything that I wanted that was legally allowed. I have been allowed ( because the law does not allow a gun to be purchased where its only use will be abroad) my .450 No.2 double as a target rifle so that I may have it in this country. I have long barreled revolvers, several rifles, even two identical for compitition except for different sights for different disiplines.
I cannot see how the police could have been fairer, they do not make the laws only enforce them.

Yes I don't like having to justify what I buy, I have never commited an ofence in my life, but enough people voted for the other party and that is democracy.

If a dealer in this country is proven to have been dealing in illegal wepons then IMHO he should not go to prison for 5 years but the rest of his life. For he is the sort of moron that is responsible for the thugs on the streets with guns and the further persicution of the decent gun owners in this country. I have not one shred of sympathy.

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: Bramble]
      #62811 - 21/09/06 11:55 AM

Who is to say what gun is legal or illegal?

Law enforcement is just the acting agent of government, not the focus of the gun debate.

Where do you draw the line on what guns a free people may possess vs the Governmental army of that country?? I say for the people to have the power and ability to confront a potential corrupt government they should be armed similarly. The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution agrees.This is also the logic of the Revolutionary militias in America before the US was formed. The militias were armed the same as the standing armies to confront them as necessary.

What laws are morally right and what laws are inherently wrong?

If someone traffics any firearm to criminals knowingly he has violated a moral law. He should be incarcerated.If he has sold a gun with a technical illegality to a moral man he has broken no moral law but only the minutia of a PC gun law.He may be imprisoned but wrongly so.The governments of man are imperfect and flawed and thus make immoral laws.

Bottom Line--Our governments firearm laws are what we allow them to be. More stricter gun laws just disarm the innocents and embolden evil predators..Less laws among moral men are better laws.

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: Bramble]
      #62819 - 21/09/06 01:37 PM

Bramble,

"I have been allowed..."

Words of a SUBJECT, not of a CITIZEN... Those words tugged at my very core. I'll go down shooting, before I become a SUBJECT.

My deepest sympathy to you, my friend, and to all other subjects.

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Re: well known gunsmith arrested [Re: luv2safari]
      #62835 - 21/09/06 06:45 PM

Bramble:

I understood what you said, and I understand where you're coming from. However, my reaction was exactly the same as L2S's. This is getting off topic and should probably be in the political forum, but I can't suppress a rant.

I'm not unfamiliar with the course that gun control has taken in your country. My folks once lived in the UK and I've spent a fair bit of time there myself. Our own gun banners have long held up the UK as an example of "sane" gun control, so many of us here have paid attention to what has happened there. Seeing what has happened is bad enough, but listening in to the chatter as it goes along is frustrating to the point of torture. Talking to British shooters, even guys in the gun trade, is sometimes like talking to the most rabid of our US gun banners.

Dunblane was a horror that shocked the world. One of the most despicable aspects of it was how shamelessly your government used that tragedy as an excuse for more draconian restrictions that didn't make a single British subject the tiniest bit safer. I can't tell you how many times I heard words like "pragmatic", "reasonable", and "sacrifice" from British shooters during that time.

We've had such events here too. Despite it's Wild West image, it was illegal here in Texas to carry a handgun "on or about the person", and there was no "plain sight" exception in the law. Unless you were traveling to, or from, a lawful sporting activity, or were on a sojourn (extended trip, not routine daily travel), once you left your property you could not be in possession of a handgun. What really shocks most people who are not from here is that, unlike many "liberal" states that had long had concealed carry permit systems, there was no such provision in the laws of Wild and Wooly Texas. Those with a legitimate and dire need to be armed could not legally be so. Neither a judge, nor a chief law enforcement official could help you, as there was nothing in the law that gave them the authority to do so. This was the law in Texas for all of living memory.

Then came our Dunblane. In 1991 a sociopath crashed a Luby's cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, shooting and killing 23 utterly defenseless, innocent people, and wounding 20 more. Texas voters demanded new laws that would make them safer. Although we had to get rid of a popular governor in the process, we got it done. In 1995 we got a "shall issue" concealed carry permit system. Provide a certificate of completion of the mandated course, pass the background check, pay the fee and they HAVE to issue. You don't need a reason. And it works. None of the gloom and doom predictions of the antis have come to pass either. Last I heard there were 150,000 permits issued in Texas, but that is probably a very old number.

The first word I hear from British shooters (gun owners, hunters, target shooters, even some gunmakers for God's sake) about the above Texas example is "vigilantism". How recognizing that it's morally wrong to deny a responsible person the means with which to exercise his God given right to defend his own life is vigilantism is beyond my ability to comprehend.

The difference in outlook strikes me as both stark and visceral. "Subject vs Citizen" is apt. I can offer no better description.

Not a rant at you Bramble, nor at any other Brit here, but a rant for you. Trust me, I mean no offense. I sincerely hope that you and your countrymen can stem the tide. For all it's "gun culture", America doesn't make very good sporting rifles and shotguns. Yours makes the finest that the world has ever known. When the sun sets on the British shooting sportsman, it will be a sad day indeed.
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"Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."

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