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"Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin
      #58849 - 15/06/06 04:26 AM



Looks like a real crocodile expert to me!??????????

Glad our Federal government relies on such learned individuals for its conservation advice ...........

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: NitroX]
      #58870 - 15/06/06 11:12 AM

He looks like a big croc turd waiting to happen.

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: NitroX]
      #58884 - 16/06/06 12:16 AM

I don't know about "expert." More like a real crock, I'd say.



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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: analog_peninsula]
      #58885 - 16/06/06 01:12 AM


It's a pity that the chopper is not a gunship.
Steve's standing in the perfect position.


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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: 500Nitro]
      #59156 - 23/06/06 01:46 AM

I've had a look at the tv-series of him and find it VERY annoying that he treats the audience like a bunch of kids with the way he's talking.. Maybe his audience most of the time are kids however...
I sort of keep looking because going that close, he's literally begging to be taken one day. My lucky day hasn't come yet..

I reckon his a very smart guy after all, because the tv-channels probably pay him well, cause he seems to be good entertainment, and he's found a way of working without undue stress and strain....

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Bonde]
      #59194 - 23/06/06 05:32 PM

he's a dip shit IMHO

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Bakes]
      #59204 - 24/06/06 01:14 AM

I agree Bake's.
Are you back down in Katherine or at Pearce.
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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #59238 - 24/06/06 04:11 PM

Still in Darwin Alan. Just forgot to change my profile.

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Bakes]
      #59317 - 27/06/06 03:27 AM

Does anyone know if this clown Urwin has any academic (or other) qualifications in wildlife, other than acting a clown in front of a camera?

I had a look at his websites but interesting it mentions not even a hint of personal history or any wildlife qualifications. They are 100% commercial websites IMO designed as money making or marketing websites. To complement his films and other commercial wildlife (zoo) activities. IMO.

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: NitroX]
      #59971 - 15/07/06 07:40 AM

His wife is apparently the brains behind the whole operation. And his father is a qualified vet I believe who works with them. Those are the qualifications.

I live just round the corner from his Zoo. Holy hell - you fellas should see what he is building there.

I believe he has just added another 400acres to what he has got and is set to develope the biggest zoo in the world. Don,t know how true that is but its a big operation.

Heaps and heaps of people visit on the weekends, school holidays and public holidays. Everyone getting suckered in to his way of thinking.

Expect to see him become even more vociferous in the anti hunting lobby. Not even the Aboriginals who would like to see legal croc hunting seem to be able to do anything about him.

When Steve baby talks the N.T. Government jumps!!


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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: mlg]
      #59977 - 15/07/06 11:20 AM

I heard that when he was planing the extensions to the zoo, the council knocked him back. He called their bluff and said he would more his operation. Facing the loss of tourist dollars the council backed down. Weak bastards!

But No Nitro, I don't think he has any quals. And that shits me. We have qualified experts (the worlds best) on croc's here in Darwin and nobody listens to them.


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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Bakes]
      #59984 - 15/07/06 05:26 PM

If he really cares for wildlife, why does he keep wild animals in a zoo. Encaging wildlife is a 1000 times more cruel than hunting them. If you shoot a animal the pain is over in seconds, in a zoo they suffer for years and years and......

So much of him being a conservationist.


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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Bakes]
      #59985 - 15/07/06 06:05 PM

We have qualified experts (the worlds best) on croc's here in Darwin and nobody listens to them.

Bakes

I think Steve Irwin would have done well with anything he took on.

I can't even imagine the amount of cold calls, door knocking etc. that he would have done.

In addition, to appeal to Americans and not sound English, he drops his "g s" as in....callin, huntin...etc

For those who would question his academic qualifications....how many of those same people would be critical of an academic when it comes to gun laws, calibres etc.

While the barrow he pushes is not one that we agree with, the man himself could harldy be called a fuckwit.

Mike


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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Mike_McGuire]
      #59986 - 15/07/06 11:23 PM

Yes he can Mike

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Bakes]
      #59987 - 15/07/06 11:45 PM

Bakes,

Being able to call him a fuckwit or referring to him as a fuckwit does not change anything.

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Bakes]
      #59988 - 15/07/06 11:54 PM

Bakes,

A thread running on AHN, which NitroX has posted on.....this is the posting I just made.....Is John ready to step up to the table?

russell

I am so far from "made of money".........But I earn good money.

We will see what happens over the next few months.

Perhaps Con can convince me to sponsor one of the fringe groups.

NitroX appears to have some problem with "paper" being shot, so......if he names a shooting group where money should go....I will contribute.....especially if he also steps up to the table.

Mike


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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Mike_McGuire]
      #59990 - 16/07/06 12:21 AM

Not sure where this is heading, but you've got it quite wrong mlq!
In reply to:

When Steve baby talks the N.T. Government jumps!!



It was the FEDERAL minister for Environment who sought Irwin's advice, against the strong protestations of the NT Government!!
Get yer facts straight, old boy!
We Territorians are more pissed-off with Steve Irwin than anybody!

...and yes, Bakes is being fairly restrained in my opinion!

The guy's a complete tool....

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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Bakes]
      #59991 - 16/07/06 12:38 AM

This thread indicates to me that Steve Irwin can do what he wants and because........his opponents think he is stupid, a fool etc.

Again, criticism of Irwin based on a lack of academic qualifations...... puts gun owners right in the firing line.

Mike





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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: Marrakai]
      #59992 - 16/07/06 01:00 AM

DITTO Bakes and Marrakai.
I have a good friend who as far as I am concerned is a croc expert.
He had some dealings with the idiot and said he was an out of control ego maniac...
He is about as popular in NT as a pork chop at a synogog.(sp)
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Re: "Crocodile expert" Steve Irwin [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #59998 - 16/07/06 05:06 AM

Interesting when the first attempt was made by the NT government to get saltwater crocodiles 'culling' quota opened up to twenty-five crocs being available to 'international sport trophy hunters' ie the safari industry in the Top End, Amanda Vanstone who was then the Federal Minister responsible (her portfolio has since changed) for approving the application, said "we don't want any foreign 'thrill killers' coming in to this country". I didn't watch the programme on TV but one of the current affairs programmes ran a story about alledged cruelty or mistreatment of pigs on her pig farming property.

Interesting to see what she may regard as animal welfare when it is totally in her own control, if the report and alledged treatment of the pigs was true.

In my opinion a total hypocrite.


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If anyone is aware, a certain quota of saltwater crocodiles may be 'harvested' from the wild with a CITES quota in existence right now. Ie crocodiles which are considered problem crocs etc etc etc can be trapped or killed, shot whatever right now and the results, legally exported.

I know one property in the Territory was keen to apply five of their existing quota, ie many more animals than five, to allowing saltwater crocodile safaris on their station.

So the REAL issue here is not that the crocs will be removed from the wild, OR shot and killed, merely that they will be hunted as a trophy by a safari trophy hunter.

Not many people would be aware shooting of crocodiles is actually done right now. I believe the quota is something like two hundred crocs per year. Yet the safari industry AND the NT and Queensland governments were only interested in twenty five crocs being available for safari hunting export permits.

The issue is whether people in Australia and overseas visiting hunters should be allowed to hunt. Nothing to do with conservation at all.

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As I have mentioned above the Northern Territory AND Queensland state governments were heavily in favour of allowing limited safari hunting of saltwater crocodiles in the last attempt. It was and is the Federal Government which against it. The above statement saying the NT gov't "jumps for Urwin" is very infactual as can be expected.

Also many Aboriginal communities were very in favour as they would receive a solid amount of revenues from the safari outfitters for crocs taken on their lands. Surely providing some meaningful revenues for these people which might be impoverished and not a 'hand-out' is also a worthwhile objective.

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The property on which I hunted pigs in the Top End last year had very large numbers of saltwater crocodiles. Even small pools in the small streams had 'salties' of varying size. We even caught a few of a few inches in length only in a small pool (re-released). On the other hand a 'dam-like' pool above the wet season flood levels had a large salty seen basking in the sun oneday.

One of the main billabongs had several very large crocs which fed on the thousands of ducks, geese and other waterbirds on or near the billabong. It was very interesting to sit in the Jeep and watch the croc trying to hunt the ducks. With hundreds of eyes watching his every move he didn't seem to have much of a chance, but no doubt still has a stomach full of duck whenever he needs it.


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