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Shot The New 9,3X62 Today
      #48385 - 29/01/06 08:10 AM

I had an opportunity to shoot my new to me Husqvarna 640 series circa 1952 on FN 98 action in 9,3X62 this morning. I loaded up some 285gr Previ bullets and Graf & Sons brass with R-15 to about 2,250fps for the first firing. The gun came with a 1" ring sidemount that mounts the scope about 1" high directly over the receiver to allow adaquate use of the iron sights. It comes right back to zero with the now properly indexed QD levers.Since the mount has rear windage screws, I mounted my Helsoldt 4X32 Diasta elevation only adjustment scope with German #4 thats been sitting around for a while, looking for the right rifle. The scope looks just right on this rifle...same vintage.

After several shots to get well into the paper, I fired a 100 yard 3 shot group that measured one inch with very mild pressure. I'll up this load to duplicate the 2,360 factory specs if it doesn't compromise accuracy. I also need to glass the action, since these older Husqvarna hardwood stocks break and split all too often. I have a Timney trigger sitting in a drawer somewhere that will finish off the set up...might drop in a single set trigger later. I have a couple of 95% inletted stocks shaped as classic German sporters cluttering a closet, so I have a project for my old age.

Is anyone interested in an almost new Remington 700 Classic in 35 Whalen with an additional Rem synthetic stock, 3X9 Burris in Talley QD Mounts, RCBS dies, a bunch of brass (much is new), and some bullets? The rifle is in excellent condition? I did glass the original walnut stock.

As I like my 9,3X74R rifles so much, I thought this would give me a similar bolt rifle that could be bumped up just a bit from the X74R and used with 320 Woodleighs for buffalo.

Any suggestions on Pet Loads will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #48428 - 29/01/06 12:43 PM

The main trouble with the old Husky stocks, is the steel bushing for the rear guard screw being too long. Since it isn't glassed in the stock like a pillar bedding bushing, and being free to move, the stock splits behind it through the wrist.
: Nice calibre- nice rifle!
: Mine shot better the more power I put to it, right to 2,584fps with 286gr. Normas.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #48448 - 29/01/06 03:55 PM

luv2safari,

Congrats on your new 9.3x62! It has become one of my favorite cartridges. It sounds like you're off to a very good start with it. Here's some of my load data that you may find useful. Both loads shoot to the same point of impact at 100 yards with my rifle. The Prvi bullets make for less expensive practice ammo. (As usual, the standard caution applies about reducing the powder charge and working up in your rifle.)

Date: April 2, 2005
Cartridge: 9.3x62
Firearm: CZ 550 American
Scope: Leupold VX-II 1-4x
Barrel Length: 23.6" (60 cm)
Bullet: Prvi Partizan
Bullet Weight: 285 gr (18.5g)
Powder: RL-15
Powder Weight: 59.0 grs
Case Make: Graf
Primer: WLR (not magnum)
C.O.L.: 3.29"

Chronograph
Shot# Velocity fps
1 ___ 2,390
2 ___ 2,415
3 ___ 2,394
4 ___ 2,405
5 ___ 2,422
6 ___ 2,423
7 ___ 2,399
8 ___ 2,401
9 ___ 2,417

(Only 9 shots in this test string instead of 10 as I forgot to turn the chronograph on for the first shot!!)

Summary
Average Velocity: 2,407 fps
Average Energy: 3,667 ft lbs
High Velocity: 2,423 fps
Low Velocity: 2,390 fps
Extreme Spread: 33 fps
Standard Deviation: 12 fps
Coefficient of Var.: 0.50 %

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Date: April 23, 2005
Cartridge: 9.3x62
Firearm: CZ 550 American
Scope: Leupold VX-II 1-4x
Barrel Length: 23.6" (60 cm)
Bullet: Woodleigh RN
Bullet Weight: 286 gr (18.5g)
Powder: RL-15
Powder Weight: 58.0 grs
Case Make: Graf
Primer: WLR (not magnum)
C.O.L.: 3.29"

Chronograph
Shot# Velocity fps
1 __ 2,372
2 __ 2,395
3 __ 2,406
4 __ 2,400
5 __ 2,409
6 __ 2,378
7 __ 2,386
8 __ 2,410
9 __ 2,385
10 _ 2,390

Summary
Average Velocity: 2,393 fps
Average Energy: 3,638 ft lbs
High Velocity: 2,410 fps
Low Velocity: 2,372 fps
Extreme Spread: 38 fps
Standard Deviation: 12 fps
Coefficient of Var. 0.50 %

(Coefficient of Variation = std deviation / average velocity -- Just a handy ratio for comparing one load to another.)

This is the load I used in South Africa during August 2005. See the thread Back from RSA - photos for some of the results.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: DarylS]
      #48457 - 29/01/06 06:45 PM

Daryl

You're absolutely right, and I'll remove it and glass in that area. There is a small crack starting right there, as there are in my other two Husqvarna stocks.

BF

Thanks for the data. I used 55gr of R15 for the first go with RSW primers. They are hotter than the common standard rifle primers and milder than magnum primers. I have always gotten better accuracy with them when using medium to slower burning rate powders in smaller than magnum cases, like the 9,3x62. Seeing as how the pressure was so low at 55gr, I think I'll bump up to the 58gr loading; it seems to duplicate Norma factory velocities. I will also try some Nosler Partitions in 286gr with 57gr R15.

In looking over the rifle a bit more, I believe I will have to go no bigger than 286gr bullets, as the magazine is not all that long, and I don't want to alter it.

The scope mount looks a lot like a Paul Jaeger 4B High Mount with windage, but not exactly like one. It has two levers and slides onto the side mount rail. Only the rings are aluminum. It seems to be rock solid, so I don't care whose it is.

Again, thanks to both of you.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #48501 - 30/01/06 04:06 AM

I really liked mine, & I'm not sure why I sold it to a friend. He seems to need to kill a bunch of moose with every calibre he can lay his hnads on & the 9.3 was no different.
: My rifle responded to BLc2 for the higher velocity loads, up to that tremendous one over 2,500fps with the 286Norma.
: For factory-type loads, 56.0gr. 4064 did 2,271fps, while 60.0gr. W760 made 2,248fps and 62gr. W760 made it to 2,310fps with a CCI200 primer, and 2,323fps with a FED 215 Primer, same charge. A load of 63.5gr. 760 gave 2,332fps with CCI 200 primer and 1-1/2" groups with iron sights @ 100 meters. These 760 loads seemed to be quite low in pressure, BTW.
: I also worked with the 270gr. Speer bullet as I've heard it is a good Moose bullet in the 9.3's. The best loads were running 2,600fps using BLc2, same as the 286gr. The starting load for both bullets was 56gr. & I carefully loaded to within maximum pressures for the RWS cases and my rifle, from there.
: Incidently, a charge of 62gr. of 4064 will drive the 270gr. approximately 2,489fps.for a good, .35 Whelen-type load.
: This ctg. and the .375 Scovil, as well as the .375/06IMP show similar ballistics with like-weight bullets. They work well at the reduced speeds of the 9.3X62 factory ammo, but actually come much closer to the 9.3X64 factory power levels than one would believe. All it takes is very careful load development, as the factory ammo is loaded to quite low pressues.


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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #48508 - 30/01/06 05:50 AM

In reply to:

... I will also try some Nosler Partitions in 286gr with 57gr R15.



Well, I guess great minds do think alike!!

Date: April 23, 2005
Cartridge: 9.3x62
Firearm: CZ 550
Scope: Leupold VX-II 1-4x
Barrel Length: 23.6"
Bullet: Nosler Partition
Bullet Weight: 286 gr
Powder: RL-15
Powder Weight: 57.0 grs
Case Make: Graf
Primer: WLR
C.O.L.: 3.34"

Note that the COL is longer than the standard spec of 3.29"
My CZ 550 cycles fine with the 286 gr Nosler Partition seated to a COL of 3.34 - 3.35 inches. Plenty of room in the magazine and the throat.

Shot# _ Velocity fps
1 __ 2,349
2 __ 2,357
3 __ 2,359
4 __ 2,335
5 __ 2,366
6 __ 2,357
7 __ 2,361
8 __ 2,375
9 __ 2,354
10 _ 2,343


Summary
Average Velocity: 2,356 fps
Average Energy: 3,526 ft lbs
High Velocity: 2,375 fps
Low Velocity: 2,335 fps
Extreme Spread: 40 fps
Standard Deviation: 11 fps
Coefficient of Var.: 0.47%

Notes: Very accurate load. Basically duplicates the Norma standard 9.3x62 load of a 286 gr bullet at 2360 fps muzzle velocity.

I just haven't gotten around to trying the 286 gr Nosler Partition with 57.5 or 58.0 grs of RL-15. I was concentrating on the Woodleigh bullet as that was the bullet I wanted to use in South Africa on my recent trip. But, the Nosler Partition would have been an excellent choice also.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #48524 - 30/01/06 07:33 AM

The new Hodgdon 2006 handbook lists data for the 9.3X62. It is held low to pressure for hot climates, I suppose, but does have 270gr. doing 2,548fps with BLC2, 286gr. Nos. Part running up to 2,407 with a compressed load of H4350, and 300gr. Swift SP's at 2,288fps, again with H4350.
: They used 57.5gr. with the 300 for 2,211fps while 66.0gr. was used with the 270gr. These pressures are held below 48,00CUP, while the case is usable to much higher pressures, especialy with the Hodgdon Extreme powders. Higher, but still safe pressures is why I achieved 2,519fps with the 286 Norma using 65gr. BLC2, one gr. less than Hodgdon used with the 270gr. The accuracy came right in with that load, into even 1" groups with the irons (and 2X scope alike).
: Note that '06 brass is usable, but will show greater capacity than does the RWS brass. I am unsure about SAKO brass in comparrison to RWS brass. The 2 Sako 9.3X62 samples I have show 78gr. water capacity, the same as my .375/06IMP brass. In the .375's slightly larger bore, I am running 300gr. RN's at 2,470fps, yet some of the loads listed for the 9.3X62 are too hot for my .375- do be carefull with load developement. Start low and work as pressure signs indicate.
: Incidently, the 2006 Hodgdon handbook also lists data for the 9.3X74R.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: BFaucett]
      #48530 - 30/01/06 09:42 AM

BF

Thats right where I would have expected the Nosler to run at 57gr. As my barrel is about the same length as yours, I may get very similar results. If it shoots tight, this could well be the load to use; it duplicates the Norma 285gr Oryx so close, that one could use factory Norma ammo in a pinch.

Daryl

I'll have to get a new Hogden book. I load for both 9,3s now, and it would be a great addition to my loading library.

I have several hundred Speer 270gr Hot Cores that I got for the 9,3X74R back when they were about the only game in town. I've used the Speers with excellent results. They act quite similar to the Norma Oryx bullets in mediun sized game. They are a wonderful kudu, wildebeest, etc bullet at the lower 9,3 velocities. I'll probably load 4064 or 4350 for the 270s; I have plenty of each, and like the 4064 very much under all types of conditions.

I am looking in earnest for a duplicate scope mount for the rifle. I want another top rail and ring assembly to mount a 2X7 for use with 250-270gr bullets rolling out a bit faster for longer open country shooting. I like the idea of the 4X Hensoldt with the fine German #4 reticle, but 1X4 and 2X7 Leupold pair would be just right for this caliber, IMO.

1x4 for 286 at 2,350
2X7 for 250 at 2,550

I was considering the 250 Swift A-Frame, but at the lower velocities of the X62, I think the Nosler B-Tip might do better...OPINIONS????

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #48570 - 30/01/06 06:07 PM

luv2safari,

Congrats on your new acquisition. This is a thread that interests me as I have been offered a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 though I have not decided whether or not to buy it. Best wishes and do post pictures of your rifle whenever you find time.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #48623 - 31/01/06 02:15 AM

Can't help you with mounts, sorry.
: On the load end of things, my .376 is on an almost identical case as the 9.3X62. It is the '06IMP, and if necked to 9.3, will chamber in many 9.3x62's.
: In the .375, I've settled on Varget and H4895 due to their being Extreme powders, and esily obtained here.
: Since loading data for the 9.3X62 and my own data on the .375/06IMP is almost identical, for same results, I'll list it. With 285gr. Speers, similar to 286gr. Norma (or others) I'm using 56gr. H4895 or Varget, which gives slightly lower veocity. The speeds run 2,450fps with the 285gr. and 2,470fps with the 300gr. RN.Interlocks and Interbonds.
: I'If you do a google search on the .375 Scovil for the site www.z-hat.com/375%20Hawk.htm , you'll find data useful for your 9.3. I'd use the lowest suggested, and go from there. Most of this data is pretty much identical to what I developed in my own 9.3X62 and .375/'06Imps.
: The 235 data co-relates to the Norma 232 Orynx, 250gr., 270, 285, and the heaviest, the 300gr.
: I found H4895 to be an incredible performer with the 235gr. speer, where a load of 62.5gr. gave a velocity of 2,845fps. If there is a need for a fairly flat shooting, long range deer load, perhaps this is it. I'd expect the 9.3 could be developed to shot the Orynx to a similar level, using that same powder - note I said DEVELOPED, not duplicated in a 1 loading test. I'd start at 58gr. and go as pressure signs indicate. For those interested in #'s, that load developes over 4,200ft. lbs., yet is a 'deer' to cow/calf elk load.
: The Barnes manual also shows worthwhile data for load developement, whether or not ou use their bullets.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #48628 - 31/01/06 03:06 AM

In reply to:

I was considering the 250 Swift A-Frame, but at the lower velocities of the X62, I think the Nosler B-Tip might do better...OPINIONS????



luv2safari,

I've been thinking about a lighter bullet load for my 9.3x62 to use for deer and feral hogs here in Texas. But, I just haven't gotten around to working up a load.

I've looked at (but haven't purchased any yet) the various bullets that are less than 286 grs. Considering price, availability and the game I would use them on, I decided that the Nosler 250 gr B-Tips would be the ones I'd try first. They should be plenty for deer and hogs. But, as I said, I haven't worked up any loads yet for the 250 gr Nosler B-Tips. I don't have any experience with Swift bullets. But, much like you, I suspect that at 9.3x62 velocities an A-Frame really wouldn't be necessary (at least for deer and hogs).

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: BFaucett]
      #48671 - 31/01/06 10:33 AM

I see Barnes has a 250gr. "X" loaded to 2,644fps top end, with most running in the 2,550fps range.
: That one should work well, althogh perhaps a bit heavy for smaller big game.
: I'd like to hear a game report on the Norma 232's. They were reported to be excellent in an article I read some time ago.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: DarylS]
      #48675 - 31/01/06 10:42 AM

With limited experience I like the 250-grain North Fork softs. Good apparent expansion and penetration where I used them (only a couple of animals, no recovered bullets). I planned to used them on a feral hog last weekend but the right opportunity did not present itself. I do not doubt they are more than needed for the application but should give good results.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: BFaucett]
      #48723 - 31/01/06 04:42 PM

BF

I've used the Nosler 250 B-Tips in my Valmet 412 a bit, and they seem fine. They are about a yard long for a lighter bullet, and I'll have to see how they fit in the Husqvarna magazine.

I like these seemingly softer Previ bullets. I think I'll start using them in the pre-war N. Lajot 9,3X74R u/o, if I can regulate for them at limited velocities.

As I shoot the 9,3X62, I find myself loving the 9,3 DRs a bit less all the time...all their quirks... I'll duck back under a rock now.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #50351 - 20/02/06 09:54 AM

Since you are 9.3 guy...any advice on a good load for the 9.3x74R using 250 gr Barnes X, Nosler, or Swift A-frame.
Need hunting load for bigger plains game in Namibia. Shooting a custom barreled Ruger #1 with Nikon 1.5x - 4.5x.
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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #50382 - 20/02/06 05:20 PM

: I looked up some of my old 9.3X62 loads. The rifle I had was a Carl G sporter with double-set, double-throw triggers. The 23.4" barrel was a bit rough, but it shot well with fairly warm loads, less so with factory duplication-type loads.
: My best powder turned out to be BLC2 in RWS & formed '06 brass. My top-end load was 65.0gr. with the 286 Norma bullet for 2,519fps, and 68.0gr. with 270 Speers for 2,675fps. These were stiff loads, but showed themselves to be just fine from brass longevity. I used case head expansion to arrive at my max loads. Using H322 powder, I loaded 250gr. sper bullets until they started to stick, which happened at 61.0gr. with an expansion of .4763". I called .4750" expansion as maximum, which showed that level of pressure to be a good safe maximun from brass longevity.
; The 286gr. load produced 4,033FPE & the top 270load a whoping 4,293FPE for those interested in those numbers.
; Like I said, they were stiff loads, but quite safe in my rifle. I used CCI250 primers. These loads should be worked up to, from a starting load of 58.0gr. My rifle also had a fairly long throat, which contributes to case capacity by seating all bullets out to fit the magazine.
: Using BLC2, I never experienced even a slight hesitation in bolt lift, form the loads I used.
: Testing the above loads in formed .30/06 brass showed less pressure and velocities.
: I strongly caution to develope your data as I did, according to case head expansion, with maximums based on brass longevity. Mine lasted over 15 shots before I sold the rifle to a friend. He got all my brass, still going strong with tight primer pockets.
: In all, I experimented with W748, W760, IMR 4064, H322, BLC2. Today, in the 9.3X62, as with it's sister the .375/06IMP, I'd use Varget, H4895 and probably stay with those excellent, Hodgdon "Extreme" powders for their temperature stability properties.
: BLC2 deserves a test run though, of loads from about 58.0gr. to whatever becomes a max load in our rifle as it just seemed work perfectly in this case. I must also try it in my new .375/06. They are so close to each other, in calibre and case capacity, as to be one and the same.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #50548 - 22/02/06 05:00 PM

Mehul...

I'm waiting to hear that you got the CZ 9,3X62. I thought that you might just experiment a bit, and I could benefit from it. I have shot the CZ and liked it. I am one who likes their triggers; there are many who don't, however.

Daryl,

Have you experienced any headspace problems with the 375/06? Its a cat that has always intrigued me.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: DarylS]
      #50563 - 22/02/06 10:15 PM

Daryl,

My experience with BLC-2 in the 9.3x62 is similar to yours. I have a Husqvarna. The load I use as standard is:

67.0 gr. BLC-2, 270 Speer, Norma brass, CCI-250.

Chronographed velocity was 2555 fps. in my rifle.

I also seat my bullets out to the length of the magazine, yielding an OAL of 3.385". The long throat of my rifle is still way ahead of the bullet at this seating depth.

I have found BLC-2 to be super consistent and finely accurate in my rifle.

Standard cautions apply for anyone who wants to try this load. Reduce appropriately and work up.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: CptCurl]
      #50580 - 23/02/06 03:36 AM

CptCurl- now THAT's a co-incidence- just shows we're on the same page with top-end loads in the 6.3.
: My notes indicate I dropped my charge to 67.0gr. BLC2, & using '06 brass(probably WW) and fired froma cold barrel, gave me 2,550, virtually identical to your results.
: I found the '06 brass to reduce pressure considerably, yet deliver consistantly good velocities and accuracy.
: John Tylor's notes in "African Rifles and Cartridges" stated that the 9.3X62 ws the most popular medium bore at the time of writing. The ballistics at that time were a 285gr. Solid or Soft, driven by 54gr. of smokeless powder for a velocity of 2,175fps, FPE of 3,000 and KO of 32.4 - all this produced 16 1/2 tons or 36,000PSI. He also noted the Germans upped the velocity and pressure to 2,400fps with those same 285gr. bullets. As an aside, I worked with some loads using W760 powder and with 63.5gr., drove the Norma 286gr. at 2,332fps, duplicating modern factory ammo, but at very low pressure, KO34.9. To meet or exceeed this Knock Out Value, marginally, I found the 270gr. Speer bullet runs 2,489fps using 60gr. IMR4064 which produces 35.1 KO points. Of course, the BLC2 load is slightly improved, but probably produces no visible increase in effect on game animals.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: DarylS]
      #50608 - 23/02/06 06:18 AM

Daryl,

I'm also using BLC-2 with great success in my 9x57R double rifle. It's barrels slug out at .358", so I'm using the 250 gr. Hornady round nose. Also CCI-250. My brass is formed from .444 Marlin. I don't remember the powder charge and don't have that info available now.

In a similar vein, I have a No. 3 Ruger originally chambered in .375 Win. that has been re-chambered to .444/.375 and it eats BLC-2 likewise.

That powder seems to work great in relatively large bores with moderate size cases. I would think it would be great in the .35 Whelen or the .358 Win. but I have never owned rifles in those calibers.

One great advantage: it meters like silk.

Curl

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: luv2safari]
      #50624 - 23/02/06 08:15 AM

luv2safari,

Haven't bought it yet, but it is still on sale. You're a very bad influence, reminding me about it when I thought I could postpone the decision a bit.

Will decide and revert to you as soon as I can,

Good hunting!

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: JMV375]
      #50631 - 23/02/06 11:31 AM

JMV
I sent you a PM and hope it helps...

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: CptCurl]
      #50693 - 24/02/06 03:38 AM

It is an amazing powder for a ball powder, isn't it. The .375/.444 is one I've had a hankering to chamber in something for some time now.
: I've a .32 SPL 1951 m94 Winchester that I might convert to something like that. My little Big Bore94 in .375 Winch. is a nice little rifle in it's own rite, and I thought the same chambering or on a larger case might be nice for a 24" bl. in the older but 98% condition 94. Although it's ballistics will be restricted due to the action, it would still be a resonable performer.

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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: DarylS]
      #50748 - 24/02/06 12:57 PM

Daryl,

If you do a .375/.444 do it on a strong action. You can really put some ass behind that round. I don't think a 94 Win. would do it justice.

My chamber came from a reamer a friend had made by Clymer. Simply stated, it is a 9.3x62 body with the neck and throat opened up to .375. He had a full-blown version made on a Mauser, for use with 9.3x62 brass necked up slightly. I had a custom High-Wall project in the works at the time, and I thought something similar would do well on it. I needed rimmed brass, so I had my 'smith punch the reamer in only as far as the .444 brass, which is 57mm. That resulted in my cartridge, and it was quite a ripper on the High-Wall.

Later we did the same chamber on my Ruger No. 3. As you know, that rifle has rimless extraction, so the rim is non-essential. In fact, I have formed rimless brass, and it shoots just as well in my Ruger as the .444 based brass. But man, what a cartridge! I load 250 grain bullets. That seems just perfect. The 235 Speers do well also.

I still have a G33/40 action that was slated for a custom job many years ago. The rimless version of this cartridge would fit that action like a glove. In rimless configuration it's basically the same as the 9.5x57. I may do that one day. My 'smith got old and quit, though. Bummer!

But as you say, BLC-2 is wonderful ball powder. I've tried a lot of ball powders, and that's the only one I ever adopted for my own uses.

Regards,
Curl

P.S. Here's a little peek at my concoction:




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Re: Shot The New 9,3X62 Today [Re: CptCurl]
      #50783 - 24/02/06 10:23 PM

Curl:
I built my .444/.375 on a No.1 Mk.III Lee Enfield. About the most grunt you can get out of the 'Smelly' action!

Ol'mate Vic P_ had a .375 throater, so we stuck it on the front of a .308 reamer and pushed it in 57 mm, no worries. Cut the rim recess on the lathe. No action or magazine mods required! Sizing die is a cheap Lee RGB .308 die, softened and bored through with a 25/64 drill (from memory). Didn't even bother re-hardening it, works fine. Eat yer heart out, J.D.Jones!

I agree, its a ripper of a cartridge, my rifle has taken several buffalo with the .270gr Hornady spire-point or the 285gr Speer Grand-Slam bullet. I use ADI powders though.

Here's my daughter with a 'victim'


Apologies L2S, you can have your thread back now. Nice Husky BTW, and a sensible cartridge. As an aside, I wonder if anyone here has read the book "Momella" by Maximillian von Rogister. One of my favourites. Its not all hunting, but a great read, complete opposite of the Capstick-style bull'n'boasting. He used a 9.3 x 62 for all his hunting IIR.

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