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2152hq
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Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle.
      #395050 - 17/12/25 09:00 AM

I think that's the correct designation.
No markings on it that I can see. with the exception of a very (very!) faint 'c' on the LH lower edge of the recv'r ring. Just above the wood line.
It's placement seems to indicate that some other markings were there as well.

8x57mm,,stepped bbl.
Single Set Trigger
Claw mounts,but no scope of course.
A prior owner started to machine a set of 1" rings for the claw bases but never got as far as actually cutting the claw feet for them. Just a solid block below the rings.

Plain stock
Looks like an old Mauser butt plate. Horn matr'l I think.

Shoots great, very accurate even with that 1943 Turk surplus ammo.
Yes I clean it afterwards as it is corrosive stuff.

For $250 I wasn't about to let it pass me by. It
s a nice shooter even if not an orig Model from the factory.

Thanks for looking..

I forgot to add that the butt stock on the RH side has an approx 2" circle cut in the wood. Looks like bout 1/8" deep.
A presentation or other incribed medalion was perhaps there at one time.
The wood inside the cut looks much cleaner and 'new' than the rest of the stock.
Also some pry marks around the edge suggesting removing what was there.
Maybe a precious metal hunter found some silver there!













Edited by 2152hq (18/12/25 07:41 AM)


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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: 2152hq]
      #395051 - 17/12/25 10:02 AM

I wouldn't have let it pass by either. Very nice rifle. Not sure if its a type c or not but someone will know.

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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: Claydog]
      #395097 - 19/12/25 02:04 AM

If only it could talk?
A beautiful old rifle, well done !!!!!!


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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #395099 - 19/12/25 06:48 AM

Hopefully Lancaster or Kuduae will see this & tell you definitively.
As to the mounts that certainly will be a challenge, then to find a scope worthy to go on it, see what our European guys can find for you - you might be lucky!
I'm on guessing here but the circle could have been a emblem for a family member or a presentation rifle, you do say its accurate!
Agree whole heartedly with Bwanabob - If only it could talk!
And yes she's a keeper alright!

Edited by 93x64mm (19/12/25 06:49 AM)


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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: 93x64mm]
      #395102 - 19/12/25 11:02 AM

I look forward to Lancaster or Kuduae giving their highly informed view. My opinion is not that well informed, but I suspect the rifle is a post war 'cigarette rifle' built by a German gunsmith using an ex militray rifle as its basis. I don't think this should be seen as belittling the rifle as many of these were built by highly skilled craftsmen who's survival depended on their skills. The build quality on this rifle appears to be first rate and I think you have ontained a very nice piece irrespective of history.

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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: Hunter4752001]
      #395103 - 19/12/25 12:16 PM

Pull the action and see if the stock is stamped with a number that matches the action.
All Oberndorf rifles are stamped this way as far as I know.
The barrel band is not anything like I’ve seen in a TypeC or any other commercial sporter.
Show us the front sight please.
The stock looks like an early TypeB with the cheek piece - don’t think the TypeCs had a cheek piece.
The buttplate is correct for an early Oberndorf Mauser.
I think it’s a military rifles action in an early TypeB stock.
At the price it’s a nice serviceable rifle and way better than anything you could get for twice the price.

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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: Huvius]
      #395112 - 19/12/25 05:06 PM

I am no mauser expert but without marking anything could be possible.
is the rifle without proof marks too? nice rifle anyway.

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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #395128 - 20/12/25 10:53 AM

That is a very good pick up. Nice rifle and accurate too. Like Bwanabobftw said, if only it could talk.

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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: Rule303]
      #395781 - 13/01/26 09:16 AM

try to get a pic of a side view full length id like to see the forend asc well as front sight

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Re: Is this a Mauser 98 'Model C' Hunting rifle. [Re: pjaln]
      #395782 - 13/01/26 09:18 AM

axel wrote about a gun similar to this
Again, I can only repeat here what I wrote on nitroexpress forum on two other such DWM rifles, especially #388:
Though this rifle may look like a sporterized surplus military rifle, it is not. At the time it was proofed there were no "surplus" M98 rifles, as these were still state of the art military rifles.
The CROWN-crown/N proofmark shows it was civilian proofed according to the rule of July 23, 1893, using the special "4000 atm proof powder". This proof was in use mainly before 1912, though Zella-Mehlis apparently sometimes used up left-over powder up to 1922. IMHO this rifle was proofed before WW1.
In those innocent days around 1900 it was usual practice to include some sporting rifles in the military calibers into each shipment of military rifles to foreign countries. These were meant as "presents" to the decision-making officers. Mauser, Oberndorf sent C-type "Army Hunting Rifles", for example some in 7.65 mm for Argentinia, see Jon Speed's first book "Mauser-OOSR" page 111. Some South American military rifle contracts even demanded a number of sporting rifles to be sent with the military ones.
Ludwig Loewe/DWM also had sporters, the so-called "Plezier rifles" (Plezier is Dutch/Afrikaans for pleasure, fun or sport) built on left over M93 Spanish Mauser actions and shipped them, together with the military M95 7x57 Mausers, to the South African republics Orange Free State and Transvaal, where the sporters were not only used for hunting, but for shooting Brits too. These Plezier Mausers are now rare and sought-after collector items. All these rifles show civilian proofmarks.
IMHO this DWM made, civilian proofed sporter served as a present (or bribe) when it was shipped to a South American country. At least, it looks somewhat similar to a Mauser C-type with the military stepped barrel and front sight base. The commercial market was left to DWM's subsidiary Mauser, Oberndorf. Though DWM did not offer sporters to the public, they made several hundred such simple sporters at least, but not for sale.
Interesting to me on this rifle is the set trigger arrangement. The spring of the double set trigger is the long Mauser factory type, not the short V-type of the contemporary Suhl-made rifles. But the set trigger asembly is mounted into the triggerguard with a seperate housing, other than the Mauser commercial ones. The two small crosspins holding the housing are visible in one of the photos. The Magazine-triggerguard unit with hinged, button release floorplate apparently comes from either Argentine 1909 or Portuguese Vegueiro production, both are the same.
The load information "2.57 gramm Gewehrblättchenpulver = rifle flake powder / Stahlmantelgeschoss = steel jacketed bullet" is of the type used up to 1912, so this rifle was civilian proofed before.
IMHO the stock looks more like a pre-1912 Mauser B one instead of the usual "sporterized military" C type one. The red rubber recoil pad certainly is a later add-on, as is the Lyman #35 peep sight.
I am waiting for your photos to learn more about these rifles. At the moment I don't know the meaning of the "four circles" mark. Maybe it only served to obliterate a previous mark that would show the original destination of the part?


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