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DORLEAC
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DORLEAC Krag Sporter
      #377042 - 29/05/23 10:38 PM


I have always had a strong attraction for the Krag.
Of course it's a system from another time but its design and the quality of its construction caught my attention.
It represents for me the transition between two eras, that of the end of the 19th century that privileged the quality of execution whatever the difficulties of machining and that of the beginning of the 20th that favored efficiency above all other considerations.
We marvel at the ingenuity of a Schöenauer spool magazine without wondering about the slowness of the percussion of an already outdated system.
In the same way I appreciate the remarkable softness of the Krag system…promising myself to correct some faults.
The advantage of becoming an old man is not to go blindly for one type of rifle action, but to consider each one at its best.
I always had in mind to build a sporter rifle with a US Krag action and it's when I saw the photos of one of this kind made by Westley-Richards before WW1 that I seized the opportunity for this challenge.
We started with a superb Springfield made US 1898 Krag action manufactured circa 1903, stripped of a carbine made from a badly weathered rifle.
After the traditional blue printing, the first challenge was to replace the original trigger system with a Springfield 1903 Canjar trigger that we greatly modified without any alteration to the original Krag receiver.
The bolt handle was then forged in a more elegant way and a Lyman n°1 bolt peep sight found its place on the cocking piece.
For the barrel we opted for a Lothar-Walther .308" 10" twist match grade blank that was turned according to our classic profile in 620mm length and chambered for the original 30-40 US cartridge.
The barrel bears a three leaves rear express sight and the hand made front sight sports a fine silver bead combined with a moon-sight.
Then a well-seasoned French walnut blank allowed us to dress this mechanism in our own style.
The rifle is now completed in the white and even though the express sight leaves are not yet filed, it has been regulated with a test rear sight at the range where it has delivered excellent accuracy and showed how comfortable and pleasant it's when shooting.

Regards to all.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: DORLEAC]
      #377049 - 30/05/23 05:52 AM

with allways the same degree of perfection!

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #377051 - 30/05/23 06:48 AM

Marvelous rifle! Certainly the slickest and prettiest Krag sporter I have ever seen. I've had a soft spot for both 1898 Krag's and 1903 Springfield sporters ever since I saw an article in the April 1980 issue of The American Rifleman about a custom Springfield .30/06 made by Adolf Minar and owned by Jack O'Connor. That rifle is a classic "American-style" sporter, built to be hunted but with a graceful stock and just enough engraving to make it elegant. Supposedly, O'Connor carried that rifle (along with a custom Mauser in .270) on many hunts and shot it so much he had to replace the barrel 4 times! So, he must have liked it... A lot!

Krags and Springfields may not be as sleek and streamlined as '98 Mausers, and over the years I have seen lots of opinions in print that they are "heavy" and "coarse". But I'm sure if any of those so called "experts" ever got their hands on this particular Krag, those attitudes would quickly change.

As always, thank you so very much for sharing!



J

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #377052 - 30/05/23 06:48 AM

Just awesome !!!!

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: Igorrock]
      #377054 - 30/05/23 08:24 AM

Now that is just old school sexy. I love it!

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: fjrdoc]
      #377059 - 30/05/23 09:20 AM

I would not call the Krag pretty but as always your work is more than pretty, it's outstanding. For some reason I really like your work when in the white, it seems to give beauty to odd designs and accentuates the quality of the wood. Maybe it's because the highly polished white metal is like stainless so even the old designs like the Krag are 'modernised' in some way. Strange theory on my part but you do somehow turn ugly to beauty in my old eyes. Keep them coming.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: eagle27]
      #377060 - 30/05/23 09:30 AM

Very nice!

I especially like the Krag

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: tinker]
      #377062 - 30/05/23 11:30 AM

Finest Krag sporter I have ever seen and a beautiful rifle.

The late Mark Benenson would have loved this rifle.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: mckinney]
      #377069 - 30/05/23 04:46 PM

Not Kraggy at all. Manifique!

I've never handled a Krag at all. But it is an interesting design.

A question. The magazine opening is on the right. But is the metal normally showing on the left side of the action as well?

Beautiful. Old classic cartridge as well.

If prefer to hunt with a .30/40 Krag Dorleac masterpiece anyday, than a modern plastic rubbish Crudemore.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: NitroX]
      #377070 - 30/05/23 04:48 PM

PS JAoel, thanks for posting.
\ill gave to go back through your posts on here and elsewhere and see about adding some more.

A nice .250/3000 Savage comes to mind. Might be on here already?

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: NitroX]
      #377080 - 31/05/23 12:14 PM

Dorleac, have you ever built a Lee Speed type rifle? You make such beautiful sporting / stalking rifles, I would love to see your take on one.



J

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: mckinney]
      #377081 - 01/06/23 02:12 AM

Quote:

Finest Krag sporter I have ever seen and a beautiful rifle.



Isn't that the truth.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: DarylS]
      #377088 - 01/06/23 05:04 AM

As always from Dorleac; superb!

Here's that Lyman No. 1:


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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #377092 - 01/06/23 01:37 PM

Very nice work as always Mr D!
Certainly made a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
Sorry to all the Krag fans, no offence intended.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: 93x64mm]
      #377094 - 01/06/23 08:59 PM

Quote:

Very nice work as always Mr D!
Certainly made a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
Sorry to all the Krag fans, no offence intended.



I admire your bravery.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: LRF]
      #377105 - 02/06/23 08:24 AM

Another amazingly beautiful creation!

Best regards

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: Monsai52]
      #377116 - 02/06/23 11:20 AM

I’ve never thought of a Krag as a beautiful rifle, but that is a BEAUTIFUL RIFLE !!!!!!!!!! Wow, well done.
Robert

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #377127 - 03/06/23 12:31 AM

I think you could hand Joel a Highpoint pistol and he'd make it look good.

Magnificent work as always!!!

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: degoins]
      #377135 - 03/06/23 07:39 AM

Degoins, I think you might be correct about Joel and the HighPoint.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #377143 - 03/06/23 10:20 PM

Fantastic work, as always.

Please update this thread with photos of the completed rifle when appropriate.

Curl

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: CptCurl]
      #377412 - 20/06/23 02:32 PM

Superb I think!

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: DORLEAC]
      #377553 - 25/06/23 07:42 PM

The world most elegant Krag in the making.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: Yochanan]
      #382517 - 13/02/24 12:47 PM

Joel. Any updated pics of this Krag sporter?

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: fjrdoc]
      #382520 - 13/02/24 04:38 PM

Quote:

Joel. Any updated pics of this Krag sporter?



Joel's in the white photos are always do good. The rifles look more striking in the white

But good to see the finished blued final results as well.

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Re: DORLEAC Krag Sporter [Re: NitroX]
      #382521 - 13/02/24 04:44 PM

What cartridge where the original military Norwegian Krags chambered for?

The Yank versions were .30/40 Krag.

What were the Norwegian rifles?

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