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Dogfish858
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Triggers
      #359712 - 28/12/21 04:07 AM

I've seen or experienced many of the various treatments of the M98 trigger, Dorleac drill and tap through Timney through Recknagel, double set, soldered shims, etc. The best I've been able to get is a Siamese 98 trigger with a soldered spacer fit to a Mauser 96; perfect consistent 2.5 lbs every time no variation no creep. Then there's the usual rough as guts 98 triggers and the smooth clean though heavy Mauser Oberndorf factory trigger. The Timney compared to the Recknagel is a used Dodge Echo compared to a new Mercedes. I think the Recknagel is set at 1.5 lb and turned a $150 Parker Hale Safari with a pitted bore into a 5/8 shooter (plus some other tweaking, admittedl7).

But the sheer elegance of the original trigger leaves me constantly thinking that it's the best. Now is there any hidden extremely clever treatment of the original trigger that will get me 'perfect' results? Is there any treatment that can give me something as clean as a Savage Accutrigger -- our modern two stage? Are there any single set trigger assemblies out there for M98? Are there ways of removing slop in the 98 bolt to improve sear engagement consistency?

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Re: Triggers [Re: Dogfish858]
      #359713 - 28/12/21 04:21 AM

Sorry, can't help with that. I made decent M98 triggers by soldering on a spacer to remove the first stage. Now, all of my 98 Mausers have Timney or Parker Hale triggers and all are set at exactly 1 1/2 pounds. I don't even remember where I got all the PH triggers. They are similar in adjustment to Timney (or visa vis)& I find they are all easily adjusted to where you want them.
Wasn't the CanJar trigger a single set?

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Re: Triggers [Re: DarylS]
      #359721 - 28/12/21 06:37 AM

Here’s something No prepared earlier on triggers:

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post195638


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Re: Triggers [Re: Rockdoc]
      #359730 - 28/12/21 09:46 AM

...and here: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=355582&an=0&page=0#Post355582

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Dogfish858
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Re: Triggers [Re: Marrakai]
      #359740 - 29/12/21 03:19 AM

Thanks guys.

So with all these, how well do they pass the mallet test?

Can they safely be brought to 1.5 lb?

With my 96, the trigger weight consistency is perfect. For the 98 tweaked trigger, 1 lb variation shot to shot, same with the timney. I am inclined to think it's bolt play and not the trigger itself.

Thoughts? How does a person remove bolt play?

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Re: Triggers [Re: Dogfish858]
      #359748 - 29/12/21 05:58 AM

The Parker Hale triggers work perfectly. The trigger pulls have not varied for over 20 years.

The standard trigger on my M70 Palma Rifle was adjusted by me in the summer of 1989 before the World Police and Fire Games
contest at exactly 1 kilo - the minimum weight for a "position" rifle in the Shooting Federation of Canada, and to this date, is
still 2.2 pounds, or 1 kilo - it has not changed & it does not change shot to shot.

Closing the bolt exactly the same each time, will deliver the most consistent trigger pull.

Slamming it home usually reduces the trigger pull weight, while
closing it very slowly, usually increases the pull weight.
This is the system we use to pick up the 1 kilo weight in pre-shoot testing.

Consistency is very important, especially with a Mauser action. There, bolt play in the action rings themselves, is likely responsible
for varying trigger pulls & has nothing to do with the "make" of the triggers.

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Dogfish858
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Re: Triggers [Re: DarylS]
      #359885 - 01/01/22 02:12 AM

I *thought* I saw a device offered by Prechtl for crushing the slop out of the back ring. Am I accurate in this, and has anybody used this fix?

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