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Waidmannsheil
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A superb 375 H&H from WR
      #349589 - 23/01/21 01:41 PM


To me this about as good as it gets. Perfect blend of working rifle and some engraving. To die for IMHO. Enjoy.


https://www.westleyrichards.com/theexplora/the-stalker-a-1980s-vintage-wr-is-fresh-to-market/


https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101583539



Really enjoy.


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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #349610 - 24/01/21 07:27 AM

That's nice!

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: DarylS]
      #349611 - 24/01/21 08:46 AM

Superbly put Waidmannsheil!
Very nice lines & workmanship is brilliant indeed.


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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: 93x64mm]
      #349630 - 24/01/21 03:03 PM


Per Waidmannsheil's request (by PM), here are the photos from the GunsInternational auction of the .375 H&H by Westley Richards:





















She's a peach!

For all who wish to post images to NE; I use this quick, easy, free method and it works:

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=321070&an=0&page=0#Post321070

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #349632 - 24/01/21 03:17 PM

That IS about perfect!

I do wonder when this style cheek piece came into use on British rifles.

American and European gunmakers used this style even way back in the muzzle loading era but it isn’t often encountered on a British rifle.

If this rifle had a more traditional cheek piece, it could easily pass for a pre war rifle.

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Huvius]
      #349638 - 24/01/21 10:54 PM

Certainly perfectly executed. Stockwork , engraving,finish and the classic lines are first class.
Far be it from me to pour cold water on this fine rifle, but the heart of that rifle is a standard length action which is inadequate for the .375 H&H Cartridge.


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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: justcurious]
      #349649 - 25/01/21 09:17 AM

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that rifle is a standard length action which is inadequate for the .375 H&H



That rifle was a standard length action!
The fact that many hundreds, if not thousands, of standard length Mausers were opened up for the .375 H&H and the .404 Jeffery without incident would suggest they were adequate. Not perfect, sure. Maybe not even desirable. But certainly adequate.

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Marrakai]
      #349667 - 25/01/21 03:39 PM

My Whitworth Mauser 98 has a standard action and is chambered for the .375 H&H Magnum.

It is not inadequate, but does have its limitations.

I need to load rounds to a certain length only. Otherwise they will be load into the magazine. Limited but the rifle is still very accurate so that is not affected. No doubt certain types of projectiles would not work in it if too long.

Also when charging the magazine, the cartridge must be inserted backwards and the base pushed in first, and then the cartridge thumbed in. For some lengths of cartridge.

Trying to insert the cartridges nice and flat at the beginning makes it jam up.

I was a bit sorry for KB after his buffalo hunt here. Shooting his buffalo and emptying the rifle, he was "fumbling" reloading it, and I got impatient and also shot at his buffalo with my 450 DR. I completely missed and hit a termite mound under the buffalo, and made a huge and wonderful loading explosion of dust! The dust ecplosion caused the buffalo wot flee back towards us at an angle past. So I chased it and managed to flatten it with the .450.

I did this as I didn't want the buffalo to get away wounded. And avoid possibly a very long hot dusty follow up to finish it off. Myself if hunting with others and if a buffalo does not fall down quickly or keep falling over, I don't mind other hunters shooting it as well. They are big beasts and can die quickly OR take some time and ran a long way. Better to anchor them quickly IMO.

I did feel sorry as I should have informed JB about the loading the magazine difficulty. In the heat of a hunt, difficulties can arise anyway.

Now no doubt some would say this example shows the inadequacy of the standard action. I say it shows how a good hunter should KNOW his weapons. Not have a hundred "perfect" choices used once or twice. Know your weapon well and much can be overcome.

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: NitroX]
      #349678 - 26/01/21 07:07 AM

Of course, done properly, there is no problem at all.
The issue is to what extent r front of the magazine is carved out and how much that takes from the loading ramp / bolt lug recess.
My 416 doesn’t look to have any less ramp than my 8mm. I’d like to figure out a good way to take measurements.

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Huvius]
      #349703 - 27/01/21 01:24 AM

Opening up a standard length action for .375 H&H needs to remove 5 mm minimum from the front ramp.

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Marrakai]
      #349710 - 27/01/21 02:40 AM

Quote:

Quote:

that rifle is a standard length action which is inadequate for the .375 H&H



That rifle was a standard length action!
The fact that many hundreds, if not thousands, of standard length Mausers were opened up for the .375 H&H and the .404 Jeffery without incident would suggest they were adequate. Not perfect, sure. Maybe not even desirable. But certainly adequate.




For me, one of these in .404 Jeffrey would be prefect...

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Ripp]
      #349712 - 27/01/21 02:54 AM

The .404 is a different breed.

Shorter and lower pressure.


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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: justcurious]
      #349724 - 27/01/21 07:38 AM

SOLD

IF I am looking at the correct firearm online.. Its been sold..
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101583539

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Edited by Ripp (27/01/21 07:46 AM)


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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: justcurious]
      #349725 - 27/01/21 07:39 AM

Quote:

The .404 is a different breed.

Shorter and lower pressure.




I have been looking at that caliber for a very long time..intrigues me

Perfect caliber for walking around Zim..

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Ripp]
      #349729 - 27/01/21 08:07 AM

I thought the .425 WR quite an interesting round as well, RIPP.

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: Ripp]
      #349750 - 27/01/21 07:16 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The .404 is a different breed.

Shorter and lower pressure.




I have been looking at that caliber for a very long time..intrigues me

Perfect caliber for walking around Zim..




I wanted to give my Mauser M03 a run in 2020 but alas ...

It will get used in a future trip soon.

A Mauser 98 built for a .404 Jeffery would be very nice.

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Re: A superb 375 H&H from WR [Re: NitroX]
      #349761 - 28/01/21 02:01 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

The .404 is a different breed.

Shorter and lower pressure.




I have been looking at that caliber for a very long time..intrigues me

Perfect caliber for walking around Zim..




I wanted to give my Mauser M03 a run in 2020 but alas ...

It will get used in a future trip soon.

A Mauser 98 built for a .404 Jeffery would be very nice.




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Yes indeed, a perfect hunting rifle ..

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