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Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser
#323519 - 20/01/19 12:47 PM

Bit of interest on old Winchesters atm. Heres a interesting pick up of mine.
Winchester Pre 64 7mm mauser Supergrade. Serial number 855## prefix puts it around 1948.
Its in good condition and original no re blue or mods.
Came with a 4x unertyl scope in very low mounts that suit the rifle. Period scope for this rifle?
Shoots 140gr projectiles very well , and is very handy in the field. Taken a fair amount of game with it this year.
Something about how they made the pre 64 , it feels very good in the hand and shoulders well. A little heavy but very mild to shoot.
Im having trouble getting sling swivels to suit so ive been shooting it with out a sling.
Awesome calibre!
Not ver common in 7x57?
heres some pics cheers Mick
7x57 Supergrade

action

forewood swivel / diamond

steel butt plate

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 264]
#323522 - 20/01/19 01:49 PM

That's a dandy!!!

And a hen's tooth to-boot!

Very nice rifle.

I wonder what the story is as to how that one wound up in Oz!

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 9.3x57]
#323524 - 20/01/19 03:40 PM

I believe the sling swivels for German 98K rifles will fit Super Grade bases. Ask Sambarman338 about Unertl scopes. He's a big fan and so am I. Model 70's in 7X57 are rare and in Super Grade even more so.

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: xausa]
#323526 - 20/01/19 04:20 PM

Yes, very nice Mick. The Model 70 in 7mm Mauser is indeed quite rare with 1470 being built between 1936 and 1954 putting it at number 4 on the rarity chart at 0.25% of production. It is the 3rd rarest model in the Supergrade after 300 savage and 35 Remington. The cloverleaf rear tang makes the rifle early 1948 as by mid 48 they had changed to the tapered tang which continues on to this day.

A real beauty for sure.

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#323530 - 20/01/19 05:54 PM

thanks for the info. Didn't realise it was that rare.
Heres a few more pics of sights , floor plate etc

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 264]
#323531 - 20/01/19 07:03 PM

Mick,
If you ever find yourself in need of another left (or right) nut, I'd nearly swap you one for that rifle!

Very Nice.

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 450_Ackley]
#323554 - 21/01/19 06:55 AM

The way they fit and hold, has to be felt to understand.
Those old m70's are indeed, special. They just feel "RIGHT".
Nice rifle, Mic.

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 9.3x57]
#323556 - 21/01/19 07:05 AM

Quote:

That's a dandy!!!

And a hen's tooth to-boot!

Very nice rifle.

I wonder what the story is as to how that one wound up in Oz!

Not wrong there 9.3 for all aspects!

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 93x64mm]
#323567 - 21/01/19 11:22 AM

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

D'oh!
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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: Homer]
#341589 - 02/06/20 04:45 PM

Mate in the states sorted a set of original swivels for me so the 7x57 has been getting some use. Heres a young bull dropped after a 140hydro thru his chest , 40m run and down. recovered all the meat. Cheers Mck

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 264]
#341594 - 02/06/20 08:04 PM

Good stuff Mick. Nice rifle and also freezer filler.

Did you butcher it in the water or manage to drag it out?

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#341595 - 02/06/20 08:05 PM

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The cloverleaf rear tang makes the rifle early 1948 as by mid 48 they had changed to the tapered tang which continues on to this day.

What do you mean by the cloverleaf rear tang? Can't see it in the photos?

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: NitroX]
#341652 - 03/06/20 04:05 PM

Quote:

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The cloverleaf rear tang makes the rifle early 1948 as by mid 48 they had changed to the tapered tang which continues on to this day.

What do you mean by the cloverleaf rear tang? Can't see it in the photos?

Referes to the safety lever. Shown in pics #2 and 4. I like the feel of it easy to operate....

Butchering done in the swamp.

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 264]
#341659 - 03/06/20 07:43 PM

Thanks Mick.

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: NitroX]
#341664 - 03/06/20 09:13 PM

Very nice Mick, congratulations on the rare pick and on the buffalo!
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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: Louis]
#341928 - 08/06/20 06:43 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

D'oh!
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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: Homer]
#341992 - 09/06/20 08:31 AM

https://pre64win.com/blogs/welcome-to-the-pre64win-com-campfire/112881286-first-post

That link has some good pics of the original "cloverleaf" and the rounded tang that is still used in current production. Your gun is a late transition period and they typically have what is called the "rabbit's foot" safety with the flat and drilled rear receiver. There is another name for that safety type that I can't remember. I have a 300 h&h that is almost identical to your 7x57. They are gorgeous working rifles!

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: wkudu]
#342005 - 09/06/20 02:06 PM

I have a Sept. 1936 M70, serial # 1830, that has the original RUDDER safety. It is 3-positional, perfectly, however does not have the indents for 3 positions.
The rudder safety works to the left, not the right. IE: - to the left of the centre of the bolt is on safe, to the right: straight back, to fire.
Seems to me, the first 2,250 M70 rifles made, had this trigger. Not sure what they had, afterwards.

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: DarylS]
#342111 - 11/06/20 09:17 AM

rudder/flag safety until the postwar transition period. rabbits foot/clamshell during transition and around 48 switched to what we think of today as the model 70 safety. There is also a Tilden safety that started as an aftermarket part that eventually winchester made a factory option, I believe. It converts the left side rudder/flag to a right side safety that functions as the later two options do on the right. I have one that I'll post a pic of later

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: wkudu]
#342152 - 12/06/20 06:53 AM

Cloverleaf tang and rudder type safety on my 1940 standard grade M70 .30-06 SN 301xx
Just as Daryl describes above.
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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: 3DogMike]
#342284 - 14/06/20 01:20 PM

Mick, very impressive bull taken with the hydro. They certainly seem to work extremely well. Great cartridge as well. Good on you.

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#342946 - 01/07/20 07:14 PM

Ripper rifle! Great cartridge. Obviously does the job!

Edited by Rockdoc (01/07/20 07:16 PM)

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Re: Pre 64 supergrade 7mm mauser [Re: Rockdoc]
#342978 - 03/07/20 12:35 PM

u can find supergrade swivels on ebay some real some i'm not sue about. in the states thats a 4 to 5000$ rifle theres a nice 257 roberts prewar i think on griffin and howes used gun section for around 4k and they are not super rare like a 7x57. thats a nice rifle.i have 2 270 prewar carbine a 48 transition a fifties 300 h&h ruined by reamer to 300 weatherby and a 51 rebarreled to 375 h&h. they turn into an obsession . the cool part is they only made one length action basically a magnum length and just added machining steps to make a magnum. i've seen them in 404 but have heard of them in 416 and 458 lott.

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