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Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore
      #287456 - 06/09/16 08:10 AM

Little lady with a great big bore gun.

Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4 bore double, smoothbore, front & rear sights with 20" barrels.





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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: NitroX]
      #287458 - 06/09/16 08:23 AM

Some more pics supplied by the owner.









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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: NitroX]
      #287512 - 07/09/16 08:14 AM

That is a seriously good gun!

The 20" barrels should be most handleable, what does it weigh?

I have just bought a 4 bore single percussion rifle which I will post soon

Thanks to you and the owner for posting

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: NitroX]
      #287514 - 07/09/16 08:26 AM

What a neat old gun--I Like It! What does it weight and what are the bore diameters?

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: Watson577]
      #287530 - 07/09/16 05:24 PM

- In one word...BRUTAL..

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: pondoro62]
      #287543 - 08/09/16 01:08 AM

You'd have to get up close and personal with that one - then POW!
Good alley cleaner loaded with about any size buckshot.

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: DarylS]
      #287677 - 11/09/16 08:00 AM

I assumed this 4-bore was a breech loader without really looking, but is it?

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: NitroX]
      #287680 - 11/09/16 08:29 AM

Cap-lock with a hooked breech.

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: DarylS]
      #287685 - 11/09/16 08:58 AM

Quote:

Cap-lock with a hooked breech.




Explain? New terms for me.

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: NitroX]
      #287689 - 11/09/16 09:38 AM

My! What an impressive double!


Nice 4 bore too!


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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: NitroX]
      #287692 - 11/09/16 10:50 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Cap-lock with a hooked breech.




Explain? New terms for me.





Cap-lock must means you put a percussion cap (cupped shape) on the protruding nipple, the hammer smashes it, detonating the fulminate inside causing fire to travel down the tube (indeed, nipples used to be called tubes - but - there were also tube locks - different again)to start the powder in the breech burning. Shooting a percussion gun seems as fast ignition as any modern gun. It isn't but takes a precision timer to differentiate them.

OK - here is a hooked breech for an English single shot - rifle or smooth bore.



My 14 bore has a Hawken-style breech as Track was out of English Breeches for 1 1/8" octagonal barrels when I could not wait for them to get more in - I had to have Taylor make the rifle so I could shoot an English-styled bore rifle.





The hooked breeches of a double are similar, just 2 hooks and a wider breech block.

This is a 12 bore double shotgun my bro built, using a breech he filed out himself.



Here's another, made by a gun maker friend in Alberta/

Both of these shotguns have hooked breeches.



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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: DarylS]
      #287697 - 11/09/16 01:33 PM

Thanks Daryl.

Yes I know about percussion caps. I was wondering what a hook breech is. Thanks.

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: NitroX]
      #287708 - 11/09/16 07:48 PM

Hi All,
Not quite in the same class as the OP's but I have a little brother to that one.
16 Bore Henry Beckwith SxS fully rifled.

My guess is that it is from the same period. Has been restocked.
LesLeeSpeed

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Re: Henry Beckwith, London ca. 1860's, 4-bore double smoothbore [Re: LesLeeSpeed]
      #287717 - 12/09/16 03:15 AM

Oh yes - so nice! 16 is such a perfect size for North America - everything including the big bears.

Forsyth stated the 16 was the minimum for dangerous game in India but would work fine. He was talking of muzzleloaders with hardened round balls. A SxS using hardened bullets and a GOOD powder charge could become near perfect, as his favourite was 14 bore with round balls.

These are also hooked breeches. This simplifies cleaning as there are no screws to unscrew aside form the lock bolt or bolts to remove the lock for cleaning as well.







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