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DeweyVicknair
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In the beginning...
#258838 - 09/01/15 11:52 AM

...there was steel, and it was good (and heavy).

This is the start of the next double rifle project. It will be in .275 Nitro Express (in the UK, 7x57R everywhere else). The plan is bar-in-wood, inboard mounted sidelocks with either hinged or windowed false lockplates (I've not yet decided) and sidelever opening, all on a 28 gauge-sized frame.

I don't know if I can embed video on this forum, so here's a link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVvkBWbv5P4&feature=youtu.be

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Edited by CptCurl (30/08/16 02:23 AM)

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Huvius
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: DeweyVicknair]
#258839 - 09/01/15 12:15 PM

Rising bite?
Please post often on this build. Can't get enough of this stuff!

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Matabele
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Huvius]
#258846 - 09/01/15 05:16 PM

Oh boy, sometimes I think I live for this stuff..awesome! Did you machine that receiver up to that point, or was that supplied?

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Waidmannsheil
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Matabele]
#258852 - 09/01/15 07:37 PM

Nice machining, make sure you keep those photos coming. This should be a very interesting build, a double rifle from scratch is the most interesting of all, especially a rising bite. Sounds like you have got some great ideas, bar in wood with a rising bite and Bertuzzi type locks and sideplates, doesn't get much better than that. Looks like the knuckle was machined with a milling machine, are you going to use a knuckle scraper to finish the profile ?

Waidmannsheil.

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DeweyVicknair
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#258857 - 09/01/15 11:45 PM

Quote:

Nice machining, make sure you keep those photos coming. This should be a very interesting build, a double rifle from scratch is the most interesting of all, especially a rising bite. Sounds like you have got some great ideas, bar in wood with a rising bite and Bertuzzi type locks and sideplates, doesn't get much better than that. Looks like the knuckle was machined with a milling machine, are you going to use a knuckle scraper to finish the profile ?

Waidmannsheil.

The knuckle was done on the mill (as was everything else). I'll smoke it to the forend iron using files when the time comes. I don't have the luxury of a CNC or EDM, so everything is done the old-fashioned way.

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DeweyVicknair
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Matabele]
#258861 - 10/01/15 01:26 AM

Quote:

Oh boy, sometimes I think I live for this stuff..awesome! Did you machine that receiver up to that point, or was that supplied?

I machined the frame from the block that's sitting behind it.

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Sarg
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: DeweyVicknair]
#258869 - 10/01/15 07:27 AM

Magic stuff, you are very talented, makes mortals like me very jealous, please keep posting & showing us more, people may not post about it, but many many are watching with baited (wrong baited ?) breath !

Wish you were closer you perhaps could have fitted my 8 bore barrels to my action !

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Waidmannsheil
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Sarg]
#258874 - 10/01/15 08:14 AM

Thanks Dewey, filing the knuckle seems like a lot of hard work when you could use a knuckle scraper which makes the job a lot easier. I don't have CNC machines either and do most of my machining by hand. Occasionally though I do need to get something wire-cut and I find the cost to get someone to do it for you is pretty good these days. With so much machining being done in China, a lot of engineering businesses have got wire-cutters which are not booked out all week and they are happy to take on small jobs at a reasonable cost. If you make any jigs yourself this helps with the cost and the programming is not expensive as the actual machining is mostly basic straight lines and simple curves. At least the modern variable angle helix cutters make machining by hand a lot more enjoyable than it used to be without as much chatter, if any. Great work, very impressive.

Waidmannsheil.

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Rhodes
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#259303 - 22/01/15 02:56 AM

simply amazing what people get up to in their back yard sheds.......

will you be using a shoe lump arrangement for the barrels?

subscribing to this one.

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buckbrush
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Rhodes]
#259339 - 22/01/15 06:43 PM

looking forward to more.

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PCP
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: buckbrush]
#260215 - 10/02/15 07:39 AM

Oh my , I'm watching this closely. Please keep the pictures coming.

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DeweyVicknair
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Rhodes]
#260225 - 10/02/15 10:38 AM

Quote:

simply amazing what people get up to in their back yard sheds.......

will you be using a shoe lump arrangement for the barrels?

subscribing to this one.

I've been a proffessional gunmaker for 20 years, my "backyard shed" is a fully equipped (albeit manual) shop.

I will be using a combination shoe/through lump arrangement (in 4140).

The front surface of the rear lump will bear upon a replaceable hardened insert dovetailed into the frame.

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Freedom of speech is worthless without freedom of thought.

Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

Edited by CptCurl (30/08/16 02:25 AM)

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Ash
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: DeweyVicknair]
#260257 - 10/02/15 10:31 PM

Wow...You do amazing work, sir!

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Matabele
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Ash]
#260266 - 11/02/15 02:40 AM

Looks great so far Dewey!

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transvaal
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: DeweyVicknair]
#260269 - 11/02/15 05:17 AM

Beautiful work Dewey;

What angle have you decided to have the "circle" of the rear lump and the opposite "draw" portion of the action where you will place the removable hardened insert? In your excellent photo it appears that the angle could be about 1.5 to 2 degrees to the action flats.

Kindest regards;
Steve

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DeweyVicknair
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: transvaal]
#260279 - 11/02/15 09:18 AM

Quote:

Beautiful work Dewey;

What angle have you decided to have the "circle" of the rear lump and the opposite "draw" portion of the action where you will place the removable hardened insert? In your excellent photo it appears that the angle could be about 1.5 to 2 degrees to the action flats.

Kindest regards;
Steve

Thanks.

It's 6 degrees from vertical.

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Freedom of speech is worthless without freedom of thought.

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Birdhunter50
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: DeweyVicknair]
#260384 - 13/02/15 01:00 AM

Dewey,
Very nice work! I will be watching this thread to see how you progress with this wonderful gun. Bob

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GPJ12345
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: DeweyVicknair]
#260530 - 15/02/15 04:45 PM

Good day to you Dewey
Thank you for sharing this process with us. Most of the members who frequent this thread are double rifle builders/experts. As a complete novice but an avid learner will you be so kind as to add some detail around the machining process? Small things you think I as a novice needs to know and lookout for? It really is a process I want to engage in the near future. I have access to a milling machine, surface grinder and lathe..if possible I really would appreciate it. With this request I really need to thank members whom already assist me with valuable knowledge they gained in building processes.

Regards

Gert

Edited by GPJ12345 (15/02/15 04:47 PM)

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DeweyVicknair
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: GPJ12345]
#277495 - 03/02/16 12:10 PM

Since this isn't a paying job (yet), progress has been slow but here are a few more photos.

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Wayne59
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: DeweyVicknair]
#277498 - 03/02/16 01:32 PM

Hope you do not mind the questions. Your project is amazing. How are you going to attach the barrels to your modified shoe lump. Brazing.

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DeweyVicknair
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Wayne59]
#277499 - 03/02/16 01:47 PM

Not at all. Thanks. The barrels will be attached by silver brazing. The ribs will be soft soldered.

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Waidmannsheil
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: DeweyVicknair]
#277500 - 03/02/16 04:33 PM

Superb work, very impressive. What type of locks are you going to use.

Waidmannsheil.

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Waidmannsheil
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#277501 - 03/02/16 04:38 PM

No need to answer that question, I looked back through the earlier posts and noticed that the information has already been supplied.

Waidmannsheil.

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Matabele
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#277513 - 04/02/16 06:57 AM

This looks amazing! Do you mind if I ask how you achieve that nicely squared bolt raceway...broaching? What finished weight are you hoping for? Again, super cool!

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Sarg
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Re: In the beginning... [Re: Matabele]
#277578 - 05/02/16 07:49 AM

Wow ! That is absolutely great work, just awesome, thank you for posting, very cool !

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