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jaz
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Double rifle sling eyes
#202807 - 18/02/12 04:20 AM

Gents,
Are these available pre made for double rifle installation??
Thx

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Gadge
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Loc: Gippsland, Victoria, Australia

Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: jaz]
#202918 - 19/02/12 01:03 PM

Yes. Uncle Mike's don't seem to have them any more [they used to do a set with screw-on front base], but Recknagel in Germany have an extensive range of screw-on and sweat-on QD front swivel bases. Chapter 2 of their catalogue, downloadable from http://www.recknagel.de/Joomla/en/catalogue-7.html

NECG are the US agents for Recknagel. http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/

Just received Recknagel Katalog 7 print copy last week; there's a lot of very nice bits in there!

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DBLGN
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: Gadge]
#203358 - 23/02/12 08:36 AM

Jaz,
I sent you a PM......

Ellis

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Ron_Vella
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: DBLGN]
#203489 - 24/02/12 05:21 AM

There is an American company, which picked up the lines that Uncle Mike's discontinued. I've bought three sets of the ones for the double rifles since then, The name escapes me but I'll post it as soon as I remember.

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MikeRowe
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: Ron_Vella]
#203536 - 24/02/12 11:38 AM

If you have the proper sling eyes, then you'll need a pair of these:

Edited by CptCurl (04/03/12 10:49 PM)

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DBLGN
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: MikeRowe]
#203627 - 25/02/12 04:03 AM

"If you have the proper sling eyes, then you'll need a pair of these:"

These are really nice! Are you making them? If so, how much?

Ellis

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AkMike
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: DBLGN]
#203635 - 25/02/12 05:39 AM

Tell us more about those sling hooks!

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ozhunter
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: AkMike]
#203649 - 25/02/12 10:25 AM

I also need a pair or two of those hooks.

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MacNaughton360
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: ozhunter]
#203656 - 25/02/12 11:04 AM

Yes, Tell us more please! Wil they fit the eyes on my Jones Underlever MacNaughton?

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NitroX
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: MikeRowe]
#203675 - 25/02/12 03:11 PM

Quote:

If you have the proper sling eyes, then you'll need a pair of these:

Yes please post some info. People seem to be interested.

Edited by CptCurl (04/03/12 10:50 PM)

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Ron_Vella
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: NitroX]
#203873 - 27/02/12 06:26 AM

I finally made the time to look through my parts drawers and found my last remaining set. These are the ones made by the American company which is now making some of Uncle Mike's discontinued items.

Info is:

Grovtec US, Inc

GTSW-30 Fits 1" Slings
GT locking Swivel Set

For Side-By-Side
Double Barrel Shotguns.

I'm pretty sure that these are available from Brownell's.

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AkMike
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: Ron_Vella]
#203875 - 27/02/12 06:39 AM

http://www.grovtec.com/

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MikeRowe
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: AkMike]
#203910 - 27/02/12 02:04 PM

Sorry about the delay getting back here. Been in the bush for a few days.

These swivels I make are true copies of the correct ones for English rifles. The same snap gate hook was also used on powder flasks with a small ring for the strap to pass through. I've only seen three sets of original ones, and one flask one, in all my travels. So they're pretty rare (and quite expensive when you do find them).

The original ones I have seen, two Alexander Henrys and a Boss, were of a little less than best quality finish, probably because they were made by children in sweat shops, like a lot of the other fiddly stuff back then.

The ones I make are of heat treated steel, so a fall shouldn't straighten one out, and they're finished to Best Quality standard. 100% Made in the USA. Loop width anything from 3/4" to 1 3/16".

Due to the amount of work (which due to advancing age I have to do under magnification), the price is US$275 per pair.

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ozhunter
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: MikeRowe]
#203931 - 27/02/12 07:45 PM

Can't you find some kids to put in an air-conditioned shop so they don't sweat??
However,
They are indeed nice!
Do they come blued and being toughened will they not damage the eyelets?

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MikeRowe
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: ozhunter]
#203950 - 28/02/12 02:30 AM

I supply the swivels polished in the white. I believe this was the way they were put in original guncases, as the ones I've examined have showed no evidence of being blued. "Polished Bright" was once a very popular finish. Looked great in the shop, but not so long in the field.

The heat treat I do shouldn't harm the sling eyes, it is a spring temper which is easily cut with a file. There will be normal metal on metal wear though, as the sling hooks are a fairly loose fit in the eyes.

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CptCurl
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: MikeRowe]
#204457 - 04/03/12 10:56 PM

Quote:

If you have the proper sling eyes, then you'll need a pair of these:

Those look fabulous! You are doing a great service to the antique double gun community by making these available. Well worth your price.

I have a pair of originals that came with an Alex. Henry DR and another pair that came with a J. Woodward DR. These you are making look just as good.

Thanks for posting this. I may have to save my shekels for a pair.

Curl

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vagrouser
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: CptCurl]
#204491 - 05/03/12 06:17 AM

Mike,
Please put me down for a set for my new Henry. Will PM you shortly for payment and shipping info.
Many thanks,
Bill

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gatsby
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: vagrouser]
#204513 - 05/03/12 10:39 AM

I may need 1 or two pair of those.

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prairie_ghost
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: gatsby]
#204519 - 05/03/12 12:12 PM

A question. Does anybody know where a guy can get a proper barrelband or saddle mount swivel eye for these? Have a rear, need a front.

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MikeRowe
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: prairie_ghost]
#204522 - 05/03/12 12:52 PM

Thank You All for the nice comments.

These little guys are a lot of work, but they sure do look good on a nice rifle.

All we need now is someone to make nice slings that have leather covered buckles to go with them (I don't do leather work).

Cap'n, perhaps you may be able to post a picture or two of one of your original slings so any member who knows a skilled leather worker may try to interest them in making them available??

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500Nitro
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: MikeRowe]
#204524 - 05/03/12 01:02 PM

I might be in a set of those as well.

They look great.

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AkMike
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: 500Nitro]
#204526 - 05/03/12 01:19 PM

Put me down for a set of these with a 1" sling.

BTW! I love your name at Photobucket! LOL Only a few here will get it. signed (formerly)6715X4

now 340618618

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MikeRowe
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: AkMike]
#204527 - 05/03/12 02:02 PM

AkMike - 6715X4 to 340618618. That's really going up in the world.

The 671RTO9513 will soon have an 8031 added. There's never enough torque multiplication on a Detroit(zero multiplied by whatever is still zero!)

Anyways, as a fella says on another board, "if it ain't two sticks, it might as well be an automatic".

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AkMike
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: MikeRowe]
#204528 - 05/03/12 02:10 PM

"That's really going up in the world."

After almost 40 years.. I did a tripple stick for a few months wayyyy back when. A 2 and 6bits with a tripple 5x4x4..

Let me know when they're done and payment details please.

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vagrouser
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Re: Double rifle sling eyes [Re: AkMike]
#204587 - 06/03/12 12:54 PM

I just wanted to say that it was a real pleasure chatting with Mike yesterday evening about his sling swivels and reloading bits. His passion for these old rifles is evident and looking at the pics he's posted of his work, we're lucky to have such an exacting artisan.

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