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HuntingSchneider
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BSA Sporter. Can anyone give me some more info
#191415 - 06/10/11 11:24 PM

Just picked up this BSA Sporter.

Not a Lee Speed. Looks to be a lower grade sporting rifle made by BSA.

Still giving the whole gun and especially the bore a clean. At this stage I don't know how good it shoots.

I was wondering if anyone can tell me a bit more about it.

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Re: BSA Sporter. Can anyone give me some more info [Re: HuntingSchneider]
#191416 - 06/10/11 11:42 PM

HS

Can't comment on the gun but a comment on the bore.

I once purchased a 6.5 Veguiro ?Sp? for a mate who wanted it.

Before I even had been home 5 minutes, the phone rang and he wanted to know what it was like - bore especially.

Well let's just say that the bore was as black as and corroded to hell .......

Anyway, sent it up, next time i saw it, beautiful shiny bore with rifling, gun shot like a dream and was used to head shoot Buffalo at close range.

The long and the short of it was, after cleaning, the bore was still bad - so more than a few solids were fired through it and this solved all the problems.

So if your 303 has one of those bad bores, a few woodleigh solids might solve the problem and clean it out.

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Re: BSA Sporter. Can anyone give me some more info [Re: 500Nitro]
#191419 - 07/10/11 02:55 AM

Congratulations on scoring this great old rifle!

It's a BSA commercial sporter from the 1920s. The F2009 and WR19865 markings were not put there by BSA. They are likely registry marks applied in South Africa.

Is there a number stamped on the top-rear flat part of the action, where the bolt slides in?
Anything stamped on the bolt handle or the bottom of the cocking piece?

If you're planning to remove the wood, there may be some marks underneath the fore-end that can tell us more.

The rifle is a genuine commercial sporter (not a military conversion), but whether it qualifies as a "Lee Speed" depends on how you use the term. "Lee Speed Patents" is not a model name; it is a patent acknowledgement. After a certain time, the patents ran out and the stamp ceased to appear, but the rifle details (in many cases) did not change. So was it really a different rifle, even without the stamp? I would say no, but many collectors will disagree (which is fine by me).

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Re: BSA Sporter. Can anyone give me some more info [Re: jc5]
#191421 - 07/10/11 03:23 AM

I didn't have a chance to look under the wood yet, and can't remember if there is anything stamped on the bolt handle, cocking piece or top of the action. Will look, but have to wait untill my permit to acquire arrives.

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Re: BSA Sporter. Can anyone give me some more info [Re: jc5]
#191770 - 13/10/11 11:42 PM

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Is there a number stamped on the top-rear flat part of the action, where the bolt slides in?
Anything stamped on the bolt handle or the bottom of the cocking piece?

Had another look today, The number "16236 s" is stamped on the top rear flat of the action.

What does this number mean?

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Re: BSA Sporter. Can anyone give me some more info [Re: HuntingSchneider]
#191783 - 14/10/11 03:41 AM

On government rifles, it's an assembly number, to keep the parts together. On commercial rifles...who knows? It's a topic I'm still researching. Every time I come up with a new theory, I get new evidence that debunks it.

Does the bolt handle have anything stamped on it, either on the handle or bottom of the cocking piece?

If you're planning to remove the wood, there may be some marks underneath the fore-end that can tell us more.

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