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Ben
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Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary...
      #185320 - 06/07/11 06:12 PM

Quite good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vPzA5fLaw0&feature=fvwrel


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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Ben]
      #185321 - 06/07/11 08:19 PM

Indeed - shows the Alpine Hunting culture in its finest - and sure worth showing around!

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Ben]
      #185383 - 08/07/11 01:56 AM

Excellent post Ben.

A great short video of ladies hunting. And doing it well too of course!

My comments on the YouTube sight.

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Good to see the Ladies hunting. Hunting is a natural instincti of mankind. And great to see the Ladies encouraging the next generation as well. Hunting is a wonderful activity for the whole family, out in the clean air, enjoying nature and also harvesting "free range organic" meat for the family. What is more natural than that!




I have a lot more comments to make, but they will have to wait for a few days, as I am off pheasant shooting tomorrow.

I hope we have some of our female members joining in this discussion, perhaps new ones? And I hope they can share with us why they hunt, how they started, what they particularly enjoy, and what ambitions they have. Anything that is of interest to them to share with us.

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: NitroX]
      #185432 - 08/07/11 03:33 PM

I was quite surprised with the language they speak - I mean I do speak German and Italian and can tell a French when I hear it, but this...at first I thought it was Portuguese...

Actualy It comes from the Canton of "Graubuenden" - thus the language: "Romansch", one of the four (and the least common of the) languages spoken in Switzerland.

There is more to it - did anybody noticed they shoot 10,3x60R...it is the regulation in this canton: minimum caliber 10,2mm (.40 cal) single shot rifle only


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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: 93mouse]
      #185440 - 08/07/11 04:38 PM

That is really interesting, 93Mouse! Thank you for the education!

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Ben]
      #185450 - 08/07/11 10:08 PM

Thanks for that Ben, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I'd love to be able to hunt in country like that.
It's great to see that kind of respect of the game animal. It makes me feel sick every time I happen to see one of those clips where the so-called 'hunters' shoot an animal and then get hysterical with laughter as it slides down the mountainside.
I was wondering what cal those rifles were. That's a real cartridge alright! and I notice that they have plenty of eye relief on the scope. Lots of uphill shooting.
That was a very nice looking scoped Martini in there. Hmmmmmm

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: AFRO408]
      #185481 - 09/07/11 01:52 AM

I also enjoyed the video - 10.3x60R - almost a modernized .43 Mauser round, but shorter. Interesting. I noticed it had quite a bit of recoil for her, yet she was not fazed by it. Excellent.

I tried to find the ballistics through google without success.

What are the ballistics - anyone?

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Daryl_S]
      #185490 - 09/07/11 04:33 AM

Quote:

I also enjoyed the video - 10.3x60R - almost a modernized .43 Mauser round, but shorter. Interesting. I noticed it had quite a bit of recoil for her, yet she was not fazed by it. Excellent.

I tried to find the ballistics through google without success.

What are the ballistics - anyone?




RWS Cone point 16,4g / V0895m/s = 4806J
If zeroed to 162m it hits 4cm up at 100m and 7cm low at 200 and 23,8cm low at 250m
BC only 0.162 so not ideal mountain caliber but when it hits its Game over.


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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Paatti]
      #185517 - 09/07/11 04:11 PM

Since I saw that video, I have done some research and the cartridge is the twin of the 450-400 2 3/8" that I'm getting to know and according to Barnes Cartridges, is marked as such, on some RWS ammo boxes. It was designed originally for Martini actions in Switzerland.
Load data would be the same for both and in mine I'm using 27.5g of ADI 2207 behind a 320g PB lead bullet. Haven't chrono'ed it yet, but will do as soon as I find the most accurate load.

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: AFRO408]
      #185528 - 10/07/11 01:34 AM

So - about a 320gr. bullet, 27.5gr. of something like 4895? - I would suspect 1,500fps, maybe 1,800 with that charge.

Paatti notes 16.4gram bullet @ 895meters per second. I thought there were 15.4gr. per gram - so that would be a 252.6gr. bullet.

I really dislike having/trying to convert metric to standard. 895 meters per second, There are 39.25" per meter, so that's 3.27feet = 2,926.6fps - I don't beleive that number at all. Is something wrong in Switzerland or my math, or both?

Joules, well that means nothing to me except I really like Princes Kates/Diana's ring.

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Daryl_S]
      #185540 - 10/07/11 04:56 AM

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2,926.6fps - I don't beleive that number at all. Is something wrong in Switzerland or my math, or both?



Copied those straight from RWS net page but I think too that those numbers are maybe too optimistic. Found bit more data from RUAG loads and there is velocities like that for 12g/185gr bullet and for 16,5g / 253gr bullet about 700m/s or 2290fps


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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Paatti]
      #185571 - 10/07/11 07:25 PM



CoW (Cartridges of the World) is your friend.

Sorry for dodgy photo. Taken with a phone (to email to computer) from the latest edition.







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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Ben]
      #185825 - 15/07/11 12:05 AM

Magnificent documentary which actually displays the essence of the hunting instinct better than any I have seen before.

Amazing capable women who are proud to stand up and be counted as a hunter, which would go against the grain for most women and some men as well.

They have done us proud!!

Thanks for sharing this excellent film.


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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Michael]
      #186010 - 17/07/11 10:28 PM

RWS data ("Wiederladen" 9th edition):

10,3x60R
Bullet: RWS Cone Point 16,4grams/253grs
Powder R907 max.load will give 750m/s // 2460fps
energy: 4613 Joules / 3320fpe
barrel length: 600mm / 23.6"
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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Rolf]
      #186016 - 18/07/11 12:53 AM

Martini's and Marmots! I'm ready where do I go!

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: DoubleD]
      #186017 - 18/07/11 01:15 AM

Those ballistics look much better. How about that, never thought to check my COTW - haven't looked in one for a number of years. In this case, it's much more reliable & easier than google.

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: AFRO408]
      #186184 - 20/07/11 10:27 PM

Quote:

It's great to see that kind of respect of the game animal.




Well said Afro.

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: 93mouse]
      #186185 - 20/07/11 10:29 PM

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I was quite surprised with the language they speak - I mean I do speak German and Italian and can tell a French when I hear it, but this...at first I thought it was Portuguese...

Actualy It comes from the Canton of "Graubuenden" - thus the language: "Romansch", one of the four (and the least common of the) languages spoken in Switzerland.

There is more to it - did anybody noticed they shoot 10,3x60R...it is the regulation in this canton: minimum caliber 10,2mm (.40 cal) single shot rifle only





I noticed the language too and couldn't place it. Interesting the "Romansch" language as I had never heard of that language before.

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Paatti]
      #186186 - 20/07/11 10:30 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I also enjoyed the video - 10.3x60R - almost a modernized .43 Mauser round, but shorter. Interesting. I noticed it had quite a bit of recoil for her, yet she was not fazed by it. Excellent.

I tried to find the ballistics through google without success.

What are the ballistics - anyone?




RWS Cone point 16,4g / V0895m/s = 4806J
If zeroed to 162m it hits 4cm up at 100m and 7cm low at 200 and 23,8cm low at 250m
BC only 0.162 so not ideal mountain caliber but when it hits its Game over.




I've always wondered too about the use of that calibre and it being required for mountain game.

What is the rationale?

Is it designed to ensure long range shooting is not possible, or more difficult?

Or something else?

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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: NitroX]
      #186191 - 20/07/11 11:03 PM

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What is the rationale?

Is it designed to ensure long range shooting is not possible, or more difficult?

Or something else?




Both and more (don't forget the single shooting rifle rule) - actually until 1902 there was a major ban on "smaller calibers" in Graubunden, that was replaced by minimum acceptable caliber order - 10,4mm. Besides - as you mentioned to be harder and to prevent long range shooting - the major role played the abundance of old rifles that majority of hunters had (Peabody, Vetterly...). However 10,4mm excluded British 450/400 that is 10,3mm, so in 1903 new order was setting minimum caliber to 10,2mm.

You can read more here (unfortunately only in German) - it is a large site but well worth to explore:

http://www.gian-marchet.ch/Patrone-Herkunft-d.htm

10,3x60R ballistics - Mr. Collani (Gian-MarchetŪ) has it all (again - German only):

http://www.collani.ch/Patronen-Test-d.htm


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Re: Ladies hunting in Europe - documentary... [Re: Ben]
      #212037 - 04/07/12 12:30 PM

Ben, thanks for sharing, great documentary!

JC


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