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baileybradshaw
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Falling block double prototype
      #171077 - 07/11/10 01:28 PM

I've been excited about building this one for some time now. Prototyping can be a real pain as many of the parts are made and remade several tmes. This shouldn't be the case with this one since it is literaly my falling block single side by side. That makes it all the more fun to build.

It will be chambered in 6.5x57R since I had a pair of 6.5 barrels collecting dust, and it's a great cartridge to boot. Barrels are 24", and the rifle will feature an articulated front trigger and Gibbs style extractor. By all indications it will handle and balance perfectly with the bulk of it's weight at the action, and it will weigh no more than 7 1/2 lbs.

I will have it stocked in the white for DSC show booth come Hell or high water. I will update my progress on it as often as I can.

Here are the first few pics. Hope you enjoy it!!







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Edited by CptCurl (07/11/10 08:53 PM)


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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #171078 - 07/11/10 01:39 PM

Looks like a neat project. When is the show?

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: 450_EXPRESS]
      #171084 - 07/11/10 08:51 PM

Bailey mate,

I hope this has extractors rather than ejectors otherwise someone in the field may be in a world of terminal hurt.

Stunning stuff and I hope to see the final product. BTW is the trigger group similar in execution to your Hornet double?

regards


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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: kamilaroi]
      #171085 - 07/11/10 09:01 PM

Bailey,

This is really going to be great watching this come together.

Have you had your hands on a Hagn double?

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....;o=&fpart=1

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baileybradshaw
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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: CptCurl]
      #171099 - 08/11/10 01:31 AM

The extractor is of the Gibbs style two piece design. In my single shot falling block, it works well enough to act as either an extractor, or with enough authority on the underlever, as an ejector. The double design will allow for more travel and length on teh extractor, so it should work even better. The trigger group will be fixed to the trigger plate , which I have also gone to on my little doubles.

Curl,

I've not handled the Hagn double, but have read the article several times. It affirmed my resolve to build one on my own design.

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #171112 - 08/11/10 08:18 AM

Bailey,
As usual, the novelty and the quality of your work leave me in awe. As an aside, you could sell every "in-the-rough" quarter rib that you can machine, configured to fit side-by-side guns.. After sitting all this week in my tree stand, with the 12 gauge double rifle that I built years ago,with iron sights only, I've come to the realisation that I'm going to need to fit a scope to the gun before next season. My old eyes are having a problem with the irons. To do so will mean installing a quarter rib on the gun. Since I don't own a milling machine, it will necessitate spending a hundred hours or more, smoking, filing, and scraping, to create and fit one from scratch out of a block of steel. I'd pay handsomely to be able to purchase one semi-finished, like the one in your photos. What a time-saver that would be!

Best of luck on your new project. I'm looking forward to following along.

Best,
Ron Vella.


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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #171113 - 08/11/10 08:39 AM

Wonderful start Bailey!

I have several side lever falling block S/S rifles, Hepburn, WR and a Dan'l Fraser style. I wonder if a side lever might be considered instead of or in addition to the underlever? A lefty version could also be added easily I'd think. I sharp smack with the heel of my had will eject the emptys easily and it might be faster than an underlever.

Just an idea...

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baileybradshaw
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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: AkMike]
      #171117 - 08/11/10 11:10 AM

Ron,

If you know the contour of your barrels, or can accurately measure the barrels at given points, I can create a CAD drawing and machine one for you.

Mike,

I might consider a side lever sometime in the future, but I am stuck on the underlever for this one for the time being.

Here is today's progress.



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Edited by CptCurl (08/11/10 10:33 PM)


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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #171120 - 08/11/10 11:54 AM

That will be a real beauty when it's finished, shame about the difference in miles from both countries, if it has been done all by C.A.D. / C.A.M. there would be a market for the program.

My son loves firearms and hunting and is trained in MasterCam, the rest I will leave to your imagination,

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #171122 - 08/11/10 12:26 PM

Bailey,
I'll measure them in the next day or two and send the dimensions to you. Is the barrel diameter, measured every 1/2" from the breech face forward sufficient?


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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #171123 - 08/11/10 12:46 PM

That would work Ron, and the outside measurement at the breech and the point of the end of where the quarter rib will be. That will give the distance between the barrels.

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #171153 - 08/11/10 10:41 PM

Bailey,
Roger that. Do you want to send me your mailing address via private e-mail? I'll draw it all up on a sheet of graph paper and get it in the mail to you this week.

Best,
Ron

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #171447 - 14/11/10 02:56 PM

The trigger plate is cut and machined, but certainly not to it's finished shape. There is a TON of machining on the trigger plate, but the result is a solid part with lots of mass and very ridgid and strong. When I design an action, I try to use a few parts as I can, even if it makes them a litle complex, and make them as large as possible. The goal is a trim, sleek action with mass in the right places and robust parts inside.

Here are a couple of pcs of the action with te trigger plate in place. The hammers are in place as well.






As I indicated, this rifle will be stocked and in th white for the Dallas Safari club show. I am also working like a dog on keeping orders moving along and building a rifle for inventory as well as the double falling block. It's a little .22 Hornet falling block. 5.1 lbs with 24" barrel, and it's a ball to shoot. It's on the engraving bench, an I sneek in an hour here and an hour there while parts are being machined. Here is the first side.





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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #171452 - 14/11/10 05:57 PM

Very tasty Mister!

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: kamilaroi]
      #171476 - 15/11/10 04:45 PM

Triggers and the underlever....



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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #171480 - 15/11/10 06:53 PM

Thank you Bailey for taking the time to share the photos of your work , I know it takes time away from working , feel a little guilty watching it come along with out having to pay to view LoL !

Thanks !

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: Sarg]
      #171483 - 15/11/10 08:06 PM

Amazing work,an enormous thumbs up.

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #171750 - 20/11/10 06:10 PM

Magnificent work! But then, whenever you post here, we can expect something special!

Will be addicted to this thread and wait for updates regularly!

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #171798 - 21/11/10 05:17 AM

It is a rare priveledge to watch another outstanding project come together.

Von Gruff.

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: VonGruff]
      #171801 - 21/11/10 06:26 AM

Looks GREAT.....keep the pics coming

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baileybradshaw
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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: AzGuy]
      #171935 - 23/11/10 03:56 PM

On with the progress.

Hammers, main springs and triggers ae installed and working. It cocks without fault and the hammers have ample energy. They hit with plenty of force.



The trigger plate has been rough shaped, as well as the top of the breech block.







One lump....or two...



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baileybradshaw
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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #172220 - 28/11/10 02:25 PM

The stock and forend are now fitted and shaped. She weighs 7 1/2 lbs, balances at the hunge of the underlever and handles perfectly. Shaping the forend was a little bit of uncharted teritory from an asthetic point of view, but it came out nice I think.









Even though it is a medium caliber double, it has a masculine look and feel. Kind of makes me flare my nostrils when I pick it up. I am anxious to get the reamer in so I can run the first rounds thoruh it.

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Edited by CptCurl (28/11/10 11:19 PM)


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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: baileybradshaw]
      #172231 - 28/11/10 07:34 PM

Stunning, you are a true artisan...

Well done.

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #172250 - 29/11/10 01:50 AM

I am continualy amazed at all of the talent out there, Intellectually, and down right skilled in all endeavors....Really nice work......I can sharpen pencils that about it.Please keep the photos coming
TC


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Re: Falling block double prototype [Re: Tallchief]
      #172273 - 29/11/10 05:02 AM

Hey Bailey,
thats looks great. Do you sleep. I cant believe how prolific you are in your production of finely shaped metal and wood, let alone the fact that you are actually designing at the same time. Amazing. All the best with this project.


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