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tenmikemike
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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: azmunk]
      #159106 - 17/04/10 01:53 PM

I've got the Leupold 2.5-8 X 36 VX-III on my CZ550 9.3 X 62 and couldn't be happier with it. It is the first "quality" scope I have owned, and is light-years ahead of the previous Bushnells, Simmons etc (thankfully only used on soft NA game, not DG!).

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: azmunk]
      #161684 - 08/06/10 01:00 PM

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Guess I'm old-fashioned. I have a Weaver K 2.5 on my Husqvarna 9.3 x 62.




Me too. My CZ 9.3 wears a Weaver K4. Never a problem.


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Hunts]
      #161688 - 08/06/10 05:51 PM

Mine has a 1-4x20 Leupold which does not overbalance the rifle and looks well proportioned on it. I usually leave it on 2.5x to obtain the maximum exit pupil but can turn it down to 1x and shoot with both eyes open. I wish it had a larger objective lens.

I also occasionally fit a Zeiss 6x42 which is about the max magnification I would use. Even at 6x I lose the sight picture under recoil. At 14.8 oz I would not want a heavier scope.

A 1.5-6x42 on a 1" tube would make a nice compromise.


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: tophet1]
      #161692 - 08/06/10 07:57 PM

I went to a 1.5-4X Swaro...


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Phillip]
      #161698 - 08/06/10 09:53 PM

I would recommend Zeiss Victory Varipoint 1,5-6x 42. I have it on a Blaser R93 9,3x62. Its perfect on driven hunts. At longer distances mostly 6x are enough for the purpose of 9,3x62. I also like the red dot on driven hunts.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Sville]
      #161703 - 08/06/10 10:49 PM

A standard 2X to 4X or variable in that range is perfect for a hunting 9.3x62.

Most people should not use variables as in 3-9 or 2.5-10X due to having the scope at the wrong power when it's time to shoot. A scope is not a game spotting device. My daughter is one such and the 3-9X scope on her .260 Rem is taped at 4X.

If you need more scope than that, the animal is out of range, in my honest opinion, of course.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: DarylS]
      #165976 - 09/08/10 07:41 PM

9.3x62 and 9.3x74r are very popular calibers in Europe.Also drive hunting is very popular in Europe...
So most european hunters buy a 1.1-4 or 1.5-6 powered scopes.The first one 1-4(1-6 Swaro,1.1-4 zeiss and so on) is the driven hunt specialist alongside with reddot sights.The 1.5-6 power is something of an universal scope choise.Does the job for driven hunts also does the job for raised stand hunting.
I think that scope choise should be closely conected with the type of hunting done with the rifle in question.
My point is that calibre has little to do with scope selection and you need to decide on what type of hunting you'll use the rifle for.And then decide on what scope to purchase.
For example if I wanted a scope for hunting from a raised hide + low light or stalking I'll buy 2.5-10x50/56(illuminated reticle is a must)or something like that.If I wanted to do a bit of driven hunt and a bit of raised hide + low light hunting with only one scope I'd go for something like the 1.5-6x42 powered scope + illuminated reticle.If used only on driven hunt or shooting in close range(dangerous game) 1-4,1.1-4,1-6x24(Zeiss,Docter,Swarovski,S&B,Kahles,Nikon)with an illuminated reticle or an red dot sight(aimpoint of sweden,docter of germany or ultradot(very nice price/performance figure)of japan).


Good luck with the scope choise.And lots of trophies with the 9.3.


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: azmunk]
      #166218 - 14/08/10 07:21 PM

I have a Burris 4x compact on my 9.3x62 and have shot pigs on the run at 10 yards and sniped donkeys at 330 yards. Never has the scope been an issue (good or bad).

My 9.3x74 double has a 1.5x5 Leopold and it seems to live on about 4x. Not sure you need more for what the 9.3's do well.


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: azmunk]
      #166222 - 14/08/10 08:30 PM

Well just to update.

I have finally settled on a 4x32 Zeiss Conquest for my 9.3x62 for PG/BG. (I now have a .416 Rigby if I ever get the chance at DG).

I have always been a fan of fixed powers for paid hunts and the 4x32 suits my 9.3 perfectly. The wider field of view and constant sight picture are a bonus for me over the 1-4x20.

Edited by tophet1 (14/08/10 08:31 PM)


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: tophet1]
      #166225 - 14/08/10 10:51 PM

I have been pestering Swarovski to make a Z6(i) 1-6x32 or 1-6x36 which I think would be ideal for medium bores such as .325WSM, .338 WinMag/Federal/-06, .35 Whelen, 9,3x62 and .375 H&H/Ruger and also be a great size for single shots such as the No.1 or Hagn (in the same way that 1-6x24 is great for doubles and large bore bolt actions. Anyway its just an opinion, but I'd buy it!

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #166240 - 15/08/10 09:24 AM

I just put a Khales 3-9x42 with the German 4 reticle on my 9.3.The 3-10x42 Swarvorski I had on it will go on my 8x68s.I would of liked a 2-7 but couldn't get one.

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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: FATBOY404]
      #166310 - 16/08/10 07:12 PM

I love the 9.3x62 and have a barrel in that caliber for my Blaser. The only African game I have ever taken was with a borrowed 9.3x62. But it only has a point blank range of about 220 yards. Its trajectory and muzzle velocity are close to that of a .416 Rigby or .416 Remington. I would not purposely take it on a hunt where I thought I might have to engage game beyond 250 yards. Beyond that, I’ll take a .338 Win Mag. So 6x on top is plenty.

As has been stated, it can be used on driven game in Europe or hunting Texas hogs in tight brush. So I would want at least 60’ FOV at 100 yards on low power. A Swaro Z6i can get that at 1.7x. A 1.75-6x Lupy won’t. So do you really need a given low power, or do you need field of view?

The US military figures its recruits are capable of utilizing a 7mm exit pupil in low light. But I’m not 19 any more. So if it will give me a 5mm exit pupil at 6x, that’s probably all I can see anyway – so 30mm min objective. I don’t like a big heavy scope on a 9.3 so I probably wouldn’t want over a 42mm objective max.

The 9.3 isn’t a magnum, but kicks more than an ’06 – so maybe 3.7” min eye relief.

Definitely illuminated reticle so I don’t have a problem making out my aiming point in low light.

I believe several scopes already mentioned will fit these criteria. JabaliHunter mentioned wishing Swaro would bring out a 1-6x 32 or 36 and that would be perfect for a 9.3x62. If they would bring out a Z6i in 1.2-7x36 or 1.4-8x42, which in a Swaro Z6 should have at least 90-100’ FOV at 100yds, it would cover all big game uses except maybe ultra long range mountain hunting with a .270, 7mm Rem Mag, .264 Win Mag or the like.


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Brazos_Jack]
      #166344 - 17/08/10 10:56 AM

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I would not purposely take it on a hunt where I thought I might have to engage game beyond 250 yards. Beyond that, I’ll take a .338 Win Mag. So 6x on top is plenty.

I would want at least 60’ FOV at 100 yards on low power. A Swaro Z6i can get that at 1.7x. A 1.75-6x Lupy won’t.

The 9.3 isn’t a magnum, but kicks more than an ’06 – so maybe 3.7” min eye relief.




The VX7 I picked meets your stated criteria (6x max magnification, 62' FOV, 3.8" - 4.5" eye relief, and under 42mm objective).

I haven't developed a bunch of 9.3x62 experience, but one of the rifles I sold after commissioning the additional barrel was a Ruger Express in .338 WM...seemed like just as much overlap as the 375 H&H on the high end. Why wouldn't you shoot a 9.3x62 past 250 yards? I realize the SD and BC are going to be lower, but it seems like it would do just about as well as the .338 WM if you were shooting some of the 236 or 250 grain bullets out there (though I understand those aren't the ideal bullet weights for most 9.3 barrels, and I expect to shoot 286 & 300 grain bullets most or all of the time).

I'm not a fan of long-range hunting- I think there are lots more people trying to do it than there are people skilled/qualified to do it. And I didn't have the 9.3x62 assembly built with the primary intention of hunting it beyond 200 yards. But my plan is to take that assembly to the Henry Mountains when (if?) I finally draw a bison tag and that's one place I think longer range shots are going to be needed. It's also a place I'd want more than a .338 WM, and I'm hopeful that 286 grain Barnes X bullets will shoot reasonably well out to 400 yards if that hunt comes to be.

Not trying to cast stones here, just trying to learn more about this round from people more experienced with it than me.


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: taw1126]
      #166367 - 17/08/10 07:18 PM

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I would not purposely take it on a hunt where I thought I might have to engage game beyond 250 yards. Beyond that, I’ll take a .338 Win Mag. So 6x on top is plenty.

I would want at least 60’ FOV at 100 yards on low power. A Swaro Z6i can get that at 1.7x. A 1.75-6x Lupy won’t.

The 9.3 isn’t a magnum, but kicks more than an ’06 – so maybe 3.7” min eye relief.




The VX7 I picked meets your stated criteria (6x max magnification, 62' FOV, 3.8" - 4.5" eye relief, and under 42mm objective).

I haven't developed a bunch of 9.3x62 experience, but one of the rifles I sold after commissioning the additional barrel was a Ruger Express in .338 WM...seemed like just as much overlap as the 375 H&H on the high end. Why wouldn't you shoot a 9.3x62 past 250 yards? I realize the SD and BC are going to be lower, but it seems like it would do just about as well as the .338 WM if you were shooting some of the 236 or 250 grain bullets out there (though I understand those aren't the ideal bullet weights for most 9.3 barrels, and I expect to shoot 286 & 300 grain bullets most or all of the time).

I'm not a fan of long-range hunting- I think there are lots more people trying to do it than there are people skilled/qualified to do it. And I didn't have the 9.3x62 assembly built with the primary intention of hunting it beyond 200 yards. But my plan is to take that assembly to the Henry Mountains when (if?) I finally draw a bison tag and that's one place I think longer range shots are going to be needed. It's also a place I'd want more than a .338 WM, and I'm hopeful that 286 grain Barnes X bullets will shoot reasonably well out to 400 yards if that hunt comes to be.

Not trying to cast stones here, just trying to learn more about this round from people more experienced with it than me.




TAW1126,

The Leupold VX7 doesn't meet my stated requirements. The objective is too small (below 30mm) and I don't think it is available with an illiminated reticle. Otherwise it would fill the bill. Make it a 1.5-6x32mm and offer illuminated reticle and it would be good to go.

As to the issue of maximum range for cartridges, I admit I'm VERY conservative in this, and many other areas. Many claim to use the 9.3x62 out to 300yds. Just as many claim to use the .338 WM out to 500yds. I zero my rifles to keep the trajectory within +/-3" out to some maximum distance that I refer to as the point blank range of the cartridge. For the 286gr 9.3 you can sight in about 2.75" high at 100 and you'll be 3" high about 120yds and 3" low about 220yds. Add a bit of hold over and your good to about 250 without a rangefinder and a bunch of trajectory tables. A 250gr .338 is traveling about 300fps faster and can do the same point blank trick out to about 280yds and with the same smiggin of extra hold over get you to at least 320yds. If you are less conservative than me the distances and the .338's advantage grows even larger. Obviously, both can be stretched a couple of yards with lighter bullets.

The .338 and the 9.3 have all the knock down you need for any North American game and for any African plains game except girraff. The .338 lets you reach out maybe 70-80 yards further, but at the price of more recoil and a heavier rifle. The .375 H&H gives you more killing power that you don't need unless you are hunting African dangerous game or giraff but with even more recoil and does not give you the flat long range trajectory of the .338WM. The 9.3x62 (like the .35 Whelen) gives you a rifle to handle all of this in a lighter, less painful to shoot package capable of killing any of these out to most normally encountered hunting ranges. I have both .338WM and 9.3x62, but the 9.3 will probably see more use.

Edited by Brazos_Jack (17/08/10 07:37 PM)


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Re: Scope Magnification Range for the 9.3x62 [Re: Brazos_Jack]
      #168406 - 25/09/10 12:57 AM

The 9.3's are obviously big game calibers and as stated by many here about 4x in a scope will cover your practical needs. I posted earlier stating I use a fixed 4x and a 1.5x5 on my pair of 9.3's and they've not let me down.

As far as trajectory and range goes, practical shooting distance is about 225 yards, where trajectory is kept within a 3 inch datum. We all know though, that if we understand range and can pick distance, (or use a rangefinder) 300+ yards is no issue for a well loaded 9.3.

250 grain bullets at better than 2600 fps and or a 270 grain Speer at 2500 fps will deliver the goods. I've made hits on large medium animals at 330 yards and dropped both 450 lbs beasts within yards of bullet impact. The terminal affect of the big Speer was most impressive and when we got to the dead beasties, the internal damage and penetration were everything one could hope for.

Like all things, knowledge and skill coupled with heaps of practice in practical field applications make the difference. Your skill set and confidence should determine your shooting distance and it will very between individuals, of that their is no doubt.


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