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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #241824 - 06/02/14 06:00 AM

we have had two mosin sporting rifles in the long thread before of unknown or unclear origin but undoubted quality.





and this








I still remember having a similar rifle in my hands twenty years ago. was looking for many years for the firm making this, a firm like ...FEG.
It seems FEG had made this hunting rifles over a long time in different grades and different styles. some features are most obvious and the combination make the rifle very distinctive.
the best grade was undoubtedly the rifle with classic stock, cut down single row magazion for 3 rounds, spoon lever bolt handle, shotgun style trigger guard, a 3 feet claw mount no doubt made at FEG factory, double set trigger


FEG build sporting rifles with Mauser 98, Mosin and Mannlicher 98/40 actions but there was a pattern they copy

FEG 98/40 sporter

FEG Mosin sporter


you see that they very similar in stock desgin, trigger, trigger guard, spoon handle and checkering


they copy the honourable Mannlicher Schönauer


this could be sleeper for the serious bolt action collector like the swedish husqvarna rifles once and they sell for a similar price.

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #241829 - 06/02/14 07:36 AM

These first and last Mosin in the earlier post are my favourites. The way they have shortened the magazine would be nice know because I still working on it. Just got a new stock blank from BOYDS.

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Igorrock]
      #241841 - 06/02/14 05:33 PM

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These first and last Mosin in the earlier post are my favourites. The way they have shortened the magazine would be nice know because I still working on it. Just got a new stock blank from BOYDS.



yes, this are the rifle's looking how it have to be
it seems they selling in the 200-300 euro price range

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #241993 - 08/02/14 10:42 PM

I decided to change the scope mounting rail to a lower profile so I adapted a steel picatinny rail from a Sako TRG to fit . All metal work is complete .Have a slightly lower profile bold handle coming .The stock is currently curing under the 5th coat of 100% pure tung oil

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #241994 - 08/02/14 10:53 PM

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picatinny rail from a Sako TRG to fit

Picatinny rail to classic finnish style Mosin, you must be joking....

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Igorrock]
      #242004 - 09/02/14 01:27 AM

Well, I am limited on my scope mounting options Igorrock . I am open for suggestions. Remember though that the Weaver type mounting has been around since before WW2

Edited by Deutsche_Vortrekker (09/02/14 01:46 AM)

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #242011 - 09/02/14 04:03 AM

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Remember though that the Weaver type mounting has been around since before WW2


Yes but those rails and mounts are awfull rude. I personally prefer sidemount but for example, this kind of rail looks much better, it costs here in Finland 59€ (with screws).



And this is very traditional and so even better.



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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Igorrock]
      #242022 - 09/02/14 07:08 AM

Yes, as you see in my pictures I originally adapted PE base and mount but it was very high . It would be very easy for me to switch back . I had planned to use double lever qd rings on the base that is on there now

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #242023 - 09/02/14 07:15 AM

eaw make the side mount for the mosin
http://www.eaw.de/assets/files/drZf_21_AM_seitl_M.pdf

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #242029 - 09/02/14 07:46 AM

Maybe you Vortrekker have noticed that my Mosin has stationary sidemount with 17 mm rail. With this you could use any mounted rings what you want. It´s not too high to me because without scope and rings I could use iron sights too.



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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Igorrock]
      #242040 - 09/02/14 09:31 AM

Igorrock , I like that mount but I have never seen another except on your rifle . Do you know where to find one ?

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #242043 - 09/02/14 10:13 AM

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Do you know where to find one ?

Gunsmith just made it. It´s one piece of steel, quite easy to with milling machine.

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Igorrock]
      #242056 - 09/02/14 08:49 PM

The EAW made mount looks good.

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: FinnCollector]
      #242064 - 09/02/14 10:52 PM

yes, looks good, easy and quick to take the scope away and you canb use the iron sights without problems

looks very similar like this




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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #242277 - 13/02/14 12:37 AM

Here is interesting link to czech gunsmith who convert Mosins with classic style:

http://zbrane.webz.cz/2.html









Edited by NitroX (17/02/14 07:27 AM)

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Igorrock]
      #242295 - 13/02/14 06:32 AM

nice work and very classic, the stock with "Bäckchen" ...
there is not a dry eye left

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #242538 - 17/02/14 06:03 AM

Vortrekker,
don't sweat having the wrong mount for the gun for now. Just try an make sure that the hole spacing is something relatively standard so that when you put the next mount on it won't look like swiss cheese.
There are a number of side mounts on the market and the simple contour of the Mosin makes it easy to work with.
Those EAW mounts are fine but pricy. Claw mounts would look best but good luck with that.
There are still U.S. manufacturers making side mounts.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/317079/williams-side-mount-sm-71-base-only-aluminum-matte

is a Willams mount that uses screw on bases that hang over the bore. Actually not a bad set up. They have been around for years but aren't terribly popular. I have the standard top mount on a ruger 10-22 and I can use the scope as a carry handle.
You should be able to get into a set for about $100

It isn't steel, but then again Griffin & Howe side mounts have been aluminum for years and you could probably by 3 or 4 of these for the cost of one of those.

By the way, excellent thread

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Tom_H]
      #242547 - 17/02/14 09:42 AM

This is good item for copying it from steel....

Some years ago I had similar over my .22 lr TOZ



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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Tom_H]
      #242882 - 22/02/14 12:45 PM

Thanks Tom , I have not drilled any holes so far as I am useing a very low temp Silver solder for the mount testing until I decide which way to go . Some side mounts are hugely cumbersome and don't hold a zero : I have seen this more than once . As I will be using a compact Zeiss scope I won't be needing a large mount but it has to be stable . I really do like the short rail I have on there now and plan to use double lever QD rings . Also the iron sights must be quickly usable by detaching the scope .

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #242962 - 24/02/14 06:50 AM

If you go with the Williams mount, you will be able to shoot under due to the over hanging rings. As I said, it is a pretty sturdy setup and if I was going to do a similar rig, that would probably be the way to go. Detachable, but not necessarily necessary.

I just finished a set of rings for a mannlicher that had claw mounts and it was a substantial investment in time, mostly due to the offset. I don't particularly like the offset rear but in this case there really wasn't an option as the bases were already there.
From what I have seen, when working with this type of an action with a split rear bridge, the side mount works best. Go do a google image search on all of the different types of mounts for that style rifle, and the variety is endless.
Mauser, not so much as it is a far easier job.

Also as for the rear sight, I would lose the military one and fit a single standing rear. If you have a drill and a file, not too time consuming a job. Can look very nice and classes up the rifle even further

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Tom_H]
      #242988 - 24/02/14 02:27 PM

I have early Sako sporter sights on the rifle not military

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #242994 - 24/02/14 08:56 PM

In my Mosin it´s sidemount has attached so low that it is possible to shoot with open sights when just taking the scope away.

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Igorrock]
      #243023 - 25/02/14 09:35 AM

My mistake, I saw the tangent sight and immediately equated it with military. Should have noticed the 500m graduation.

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Tom_H]
      #243033 - 25/02/14 02:05 PM

Igorrock : This is the balance I am looking for ; easy use of iron sights in harsh winter weather but also the use of a low power scope with the sighting comfortable for both .

Tom : It's an easy mistake as the early Sako sporter sights closely resemble military ; that's why I like them .

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
      #243169 - 01/03/14 11:36 AM


Not to get too far ahead of myself but his is my next Finnish Mosin project .A select piece of Arctic Flame Birch that will duplicate a Tikka Master Sporter stock and inletted for a Mosin

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