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JohnWilkes
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Day at the Office
      #133165 - 22/04/09 10:55 PM



Hot work



The helpers








A nice cool bath

Edited by JohnWilkes (22/04/09 11:10 PM)

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #141574 - 04/09/09 10:32 PM

Neat!

Is that a ferret? It looks alive so I am assuming it is checking holes for you?

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: AspenHill]
      #141577 - 04/09/09 11:14 PM

JW:

You have some explainin' to do!!

How, what and where???

Great thread-starter by the way!

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: 9.3x57]
      #141602 - 05/09/09 11:33 AM

Ferreting in South Australia.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: kamilaroi]
      #141605 - 05/09/09 02:37 PM

Still a bit dry there by the looks?

We're better now than the previous three seasons (which isn't saying much) but spring still has a long way to go.

Nice work, tho.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: 9.3x57]
      #141839 - 10/09/09 10:35 PM

Hi all,
Sorry about the delay in reply.
Anne: Yes that is a ferret (very much alive!) he is being fitted with a locater collar (or Ferret Finder Mark 2 a British product made by a co. called Deben) we use the ferrets to flush rabbits
from their warrens (and other spots) to be caught in either purse or longnets.

9.3:Sir you are right I should explain, I work as a vertabrate pest operative, specalising in non
poison control methods, ie, trapping,netting etc altohugh I do do some bait and fumigation work.
I conduct work for a variety of government and non government bodies as well as private individuals.
I also do a couple of teaching stints for the State technical college and conduct workshops for local conservation groups on feral animal control.
The pictures really are, for me a day at the office! So I am truely blessed in doing what I love.
The first picture shows me carrying a long net and catch. I shall pop up some more pics if anyone is interested.
Many people think ferreting etc can not be used to get control of rabbits, this is erroneous.
It can not be used to achieve control if practiced in the wrong place by people who don't know what they are doing. We are frequently used by enviromental groups and people with revegetation schemes
where the so called "reccomended" practices of poisoning or gassing would be ineffective or be more
harmful than the rabbit eg whats the point in gassing a warren which contains Sand Goannas and rabbits? {Goannas area large native lizard} will post pic.
Hope that helps.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: 9.3x57]
      #141842 - 10/09/09 10:58 PM

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt256/Terref/Netting01.jpg


This is a long net being set, they are a very old style of rabbit and Hare catching kit much used
in days gone by by the poaching fraternity, now modernised they are still very useful.
The dog (sadly no longer with me is a lurcher (sort of like a staghound or coyote hound) my family have bred and worked these canny critters for many generations they are trained to work with the nets and/or ferrets in the capture of rabbits. Its a big subject but there is plenty of info on the net some as always a wee bit sus. A visit to the UK site TheHuntingLife.com.UK may is worthwhile for those who are interested.Thus saving me from boring all and sundry on here LOL.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: 9.3x57]
      #141845 - 10/09/09 11:19 PM



A Goulds Sand goanna this is quite a wee one,part of a colony living on a site very close to the 'burbs where I conduct a feral management plan for the owners.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: 9.3x57]
      #141848 - 10/09/09 11:29 PM



Funny old critter the Rabbit when pushed they swim, they duck and dive and yes they climb...
were the team telling tales?



No, cos there was a tail to tell.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #142422 - 21/09/09 01:39 AM

John,yes please post more pics and stories about terriers,ferreting and lurchers.
This type of hunting needs to be revived before it is lost forever.
What happened to the lurcher pictured?
Al

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #142424 - 21/09/09 01:51 AM

Absolutely fascinating. The Australian experience is nearly unknown to me and I am always amazed at pictures of what seems to be {to our eyes} desert/low carrying capacity ground that produces an amazing variety of animal life!

Very interesting.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: 9.3x57]
      #142496 - 22/09/09 08:59 PM

Neat rabbit hidey hole! Any more working pics of the ferret? Now that is neat.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #142550 - 23/09/09 11:53 AM

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A Goulds Sand goanna this is quite a wee one,part of a colony living on a site very close to the 'burbs where I conduct a feral management plan for the owners.



I've never seen a goanna like that anywhere near here and you are only an hour or so away. I guess dogs and foxes (cats as well?) have a big impact on goannas? Also do they like drier country, as compared to the slightly wetter Barossa?

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Absolutely fascinating. The Australian experience is nearly unknown to me and I am always amazed at pictures of what seems to be {to our eyes} desert/low carrying capacity ground that produces an amazing variety of animal life!



Ha ha , Ann, much of typical Australia looks like that. I'm guessing John W photos are from the Northern Adelaide plains, lots of cereal farming, grazing, and the photo looks like low Mallee scrub.

If you have ever seen the TV series "McLoud's Daughters", it is/was filmed on a property situated half way between the Adelaide Plains and Barossa. Actually the ancestral house of an acquaintance of mine, but sold by the family since. There name wasn't "McLoud".

In the opposite direction East of the Ranges we have a rain shadow (look for a film called "Rain Shadow" with Rachel Ward) and lots of mallee and salt bush scrub, limestone rocks covering the surface and lots of roos, emus, lizards, snakes, rabbits and paddock lice (sheep ).

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #142551 - 23/09/09 11:55 AM

Quote:

A Goulds Sand goanna this is quite a wee one,part of a colony living on a site very close to the 'burbs where I conduct a feral management plan for the owners.



John W,

Your lizard photo made me wonder and mentioning they live down rabbit warrens. Do you ever have any problems with snakes when ferreting?

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: NitroX]
      #142554 - 23/09/09 12:40 PM

Quote:

and paddock lice (sheep ).



Range maggots?



BTW, John it's Rod, not Ann. We're both gorgeous blonds, but I got this little thingy...

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: 9.3x57]
      #142558 - 23/09/09 01:32 PM

http://www.countrychannel.tv/player.php/?player=TheNewCountryChannel&ct=1&ids=290202 long netting explained
http://www.countrychannel.tv/player.php/?player=TheNewCountryChannel&ct=1&ids=290218
http://www.countrychannel.tv/player.php/?player=TheNewCountryChannel&ct=1&ids=290229
Ferrets and ferreting explained.
Pretty much alive in the uk.
Ferrets are also used to flush the rabbits out to then be shot by shotgun.
Nice to see it at work in Oz.

Edited by ArnoldB (23/09/09 01:53 PM)

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: ArnoldB]
      #142588 - 24/09/09 12:57 AM

9.3 , they are also known as mountain maggots or ground lice depending on where you live.
Al

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: NitroX]
      #142598 - 24/09/09 10:02 AM

You are right John they prefer the more sandy dry country,they along with other critters often share
rabbit warrens. Large adults are fairly safe from predators but juveniles fall prey to the usual suspects.
Snakes can be an issue with the ferrets so we do proceed with caution. Only lost one ferret to a snake in twenty odd years so (touch wood) not too bad.
The country shown is as John describes, low remnant Mallee scrub. I do a lot of work in these types of areas where native plant reveg. and preservation is the order of the day. The "updated" traditional methods are much preferable to gassing etc in these areas as "off target" kills are avoided. eg goannas and other natives.
Will post more pics etc soon...bit busy catching rabbits.
My apologies to the "augmented" gorgeous blond!

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #142827 - 28/09/09 07:48 PM

Ok here we go


This is a purse net essentially a 4 ft long 2 1/4 inch mesh net sewn onto a couple of metal rings at either end. Through the net edge and the rings is a draw cord to which is attached a peg.It is spread over the hole and the bottom ring placed into the opening so that as the rabbit bolts it
passes into the "bag" of the net and the net pulls up like an old fashioned draw string purse.
Here is a rabbit in a long net, these 6z nets hold beautifuly,the slack or bag in the net when it
is set correctly is what does the job.



Also in use with the longnets a short "stop" net in effect a 8-10 yd net on two poles
we used them a lot in bisecting hedges in the UK here they are great in tree races like this one
also can be used "gate netting" for hares


The girls check it out

Here comes trouble....


waiting

getting a few now
Thats all folks

Back home for a quiet night by the fire


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Edited by JohnWilkes (28/09/09 07:55 PM)

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #142829 - 28/09/09 07:59 PM

All rabbits are dispatched in the nets. This is a more humane than carting them around trying to remove a live rabbit and also means another purse net is quickly deployed to catch any followers.
I hope that goes some way to explaining rather superficially the art and science (and it really is a
surprisingly big topic) of daytime rabbit netting.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #143054 - 02/10/09 09:53 PM

John,thanks mate,those tapes arrived today.
Will look at them on the weekend.
Regards
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Re: Day at the Office [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #143255 - 07/10/09 04:39 AM

That big ferret looks wicked mean....

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: AspenHill]
      #143258 - 07/10/09 05:06 AM

Ferreting and netting is very much alive and well
here in Australia.

Great photos, thanks for posting.

Edited by 500Nitro (07/10/09 05:06 AM)

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: AspenHill]
      #143353 - 09/10/09 02:52 AM

There are a few rabbits around that would probably agree Aspen Hill .

The gentleman in question is Clyde and the female featured,Bonnie(hopefully in kit). He is a fair old lump of ferret and quite a character I use him a lot in talks and demonstrations I give to various groups and despite his "tough guy" looks he is gentle as anything, this is essential in a working ferret. The notion that some folk have that a ferret must be savage to work is nonsense. They are gentled from babies so they can be picked up in any situation. They work from instinct.

500, my pleasure.

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Re: Day at the Office [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #143476 - 11/10/09 11:55 AM

Yeah, John, I meant he looked very serious. Bet Clyde is a kitten with his master. I am a firm believer in assigning a task, or job, to an animal. My dog lives with my fowls to protect them. My cats also keep ferals away and guard chicks.

Good luck with a batch of babies, I bet they are fun. BTW- Do ferrets respond to commands, do they learn words like dogs, cats, horses, etc?

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