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N320AW
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Need help with this rifle indentification.
      #61416 - 19/08/06 09:46 AM

Someone on another forum is asking about a rifle his grandfather had. Where better to ask, but here?

He says this is a nice bolt-action and is this from markings:

US 1917 Eddystone
450 Express with FNB under the caliber

Anyone know about the maker and exactly what cartridge this is?

Thanks

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Re: Need help with this rifle indentification. [Re: N320AW]
      #61434 - 20/08/06 01:40 AM

Sounds like a sporterized 1917 Enfield from the Eddystone arsenal.
The original caliber was .30-06 and the .303 was made for the Brits. It's a very good action.......no idea re: the present caliber, though.
Don't know what the "FNB" stands for. "Fabrique National Belgium" maybe?

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Re: Need help with this rifle indentification. [Re: N320AW]
      #61441 - 20/08/06 03:45 AM

FNB stand stands for Fred N Barnes and the 450 Express is part of a family of wildcats Barnes sold back in the 50's. I have a 404 Express, that is really .416 caliber by Barnes.

Barnes later teamed up with a fellow out of Alaska by the name of Johnson and they marketed the guns as BJ Express.

The FNB rifle was most likely acquired from P.O. Ackley and was made by a student Gunsmith at Trinidad. Johnson made the BJ Express guns.

The 416 Chatfield Taylor is virtually the same as the .404 Express. The Express is just a hair wider in the shoulder and longer in the neck and will not fit in the Taylor chamber. The Express predates the Taylor. The Taylor is made from 458 Mag brass, which is short in my Express chamber. I make my brass from 300 Win Mag or .375 H&H.

I don't have reloading dies for the gun. I just use my universal reloading dies.

It's going to take a chamber cast and bore slug to realy determine what you have.

My Gun is made on a 98 Mauser and is extremely accurate.

Ackley's books on reloading have some imformation on the BJ Express cartridges. I don't have those books with me to look them up.


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Smokinjoe
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Re: Need help with this rifle indentification. [Re: DoubleD]
      #61446 - 20/08/06 04:30 AM

DoubleD, thanks for refreshing my memory re: the Barnes-Johnson line.

N320AW, like DoubleD said, this more or less a ".450 Taylor" as I'd call it....... a blown-out .450 on the .458 case.

Ackley Info:

Standard Twist: 14"
Special Twist: 18", 20"

500 gn bullet 78 gns 4320 @ 2200'

Eddystone Info:

U.S. ENFIELD M1917 RIFLE .30 [dated by calendar year: January ¡V December]

EDDYSTONE ARSENAL 1917 174160 MANUFACTURED 1918 1007748 MANUFACTURED

Also: http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/pattern14/index.asp

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