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ajsaxin
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Quality of the new Rigby double rifles?
      #115342 - 24/09/08 08:29 AM

I am new to the forum but have been following it for a couple of weeks.Also been readin a lot on british double rifles.Are they expensive or what .
I did notice that in the early 1900s some of the most popular and renonwed doubles were made by H&H ,Rigby,Purdey and westley richards.Unfortunaltey one of the pioneers Rigby had to be sold off.
Coming to my question on comparing the prices of similar rifles I see that the Rigby is no where even close to as expensive as it previous(I could be wrong)peers.Is it because of cheaper labour in the united states,which could also imply cheaper=not the best labour or do you think the britsh makers such as H&H ect are grossly overpriceing they equipment and the diffrence we are paying is not for the quality of the product alone but more for the tradition that a completely british made rifle represents.

The starting price on the website fora Rigby boxlock is at $36500 and the same from Westley Richards would start from -$49,547 this is for the .500 ne .I woulnt even want to venture near the hollands or the purdeys lol.

I ve read a lot and noticed that the real hunters(not the princes,barons and the maharajas)used a rigby that a purdey for example that says a lot for its predigree .So going by the fact that the new Rigby is quite inexpensive when compared to the others ,is it because quality wise they no longer compete with the rest or some other reason besides what I have mention.In simple words would you say the new Rigbys are as good as any of the current british double?

Would love to see pictures of any of the new Rigby Doubles .


AJ


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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: ajsaxin]
      #115347 - 24/09/08 09:35 AM

I think you should look at this thread.

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=99557&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

The "joke" referred to is the "new" mexi-Rigby you seek.

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ajsaxin
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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: Bramble]
      #115352 - 24/09/08 10:36 AM

Hahaha ,I had no intentions what so ever purchasing a new double anytime soon,and definetely not the new rigby,just got curious.The pictures of gun makers in britain showed much older men with reading glasses on and seemed like they have been doing this for ever the new rigby seemed like part time college students and tatooed bikers .

I love the US but why is that we dont see anything to do with quality from there,something which a regular person could buy,like a great suit a good sportscar or in fact a beautiful rifle.the b2 bommbers and the hornets are good but deifntley beyond out pockets.For finesse and quality I would always turn towards europe.

Who ever purchased it for sure was looking to make a quick buck using the brand name

AJ


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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: ajsaxin]
      #115357 - 24/09/08 01:07 PM

Please!, lets not bring this up again!
Actually, the Rigby thread should be compulsory reading for new members - if only to let them know what they are getting into here! LOL!

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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: Huvius]
      #115360 - 24/09/08 01:14 PM

For quality goods from the US, you can't look to the mass market. You need to find the specialists. When you do, you will find some of if not the best in the world.

Examples include custom bolt rifles, sportfishing boats, etc. But you need to look within specific niches. When you do, it is there.

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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: JPK]
      #115365 - 24/09/08 02:10 PM

Obviously the second-oldest(?) name in the gun world has taken a wrong turn somewhere. I stumbled on the Rigby website recently, however, and the engraving there did not look too bad. Does anyone have info on their claim (two or three years ago) of making both barrels in one piece? if so, how do they regulate them?

- Paul


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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: Paul]
      #115367 - 24/09/08 02:14 PM

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Obviously the second-oldest(?) name in the gun world has taken a wrong turn somewhere. I stumbled on the Rigby website recently, however, and the engraving there did not look too bad. Does anyone have info on their claim (two or three years ago) of making both barrels in one piece? if so, how do they regulate them?

- Paul





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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: Paul]
      #115382 - 24/09/08 05:17 PM

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Does anyone have info on their claim (two or three years ago) of making both barrels in one piece? if so, how do they regulate them?

- Paul




they dont paul, they just show there rifles to the animals and ugly them to death , dont need any ammo either

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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: ajsaxin]
      #115387 - 24/09/08 07:39 PM

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I ve read a lot and noticed that the real hunters(not the princes,barons and the maharajas)used a ...




Why do you assume that these people were not also "real" hunters?

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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: JPK]
      #115392 - 24/09/08 10:08 PM

Quote:

For quality goods from the US, you can't look to the mass market. You need to find the specialists. When you do, you will find some of if not the best in the world.

Examples include custom bolt rifles, sportfishing boats, etc. But you need to look within specific niches. When you do, it is there.

JPK






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Agree totally with this statement...it will cost you some money--but, if you are willing to part with the greenbacks...anything in any degree of quality is there for you...don't care what you are looking for...

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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: NitroX]
      #115417 - 25/09/08 02:04 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I ve read a lot and noticed that the real hunters(not the princes,barons and the maharajas)used a ...




Why do you assume that these people were not also "real" hunters?




Well my personal idea about a hunter is not just any one who is a great shot but then he should be a great tracker and understand the animal he shoots .I dont really know many princes who come under this cathegory.They come with a huge retinue of gun bearers guards,guides a dozen hounds to corner the animal for them and to top it a few sat on elephants with another dozen elephants near them .All they did was shoot .Thats makes them a great shooter not a great hunter.
A hunter is one who goes in alone maybe with a tracker or a native or two to help him carry his ivory and tracks and hunt sthe animal , not the ones who have a mini army along with them.
This is my personal opinion not many might agree but then I do have weired notions for example I think its no fun shooting a lion which despite knowing you there could not give a damm(I think i saw one in a mark sullivan video,not shot by him ofcourse) .I would much rather prefer shooting one even if it makes a sucked up trophy as long as they animal that I shoot makes it as diffiuclt and dangerous for me .Frankly where is the pleasure in having tusks taller than you in you living room if u know u shoot the Bull while it was busy filling its tummy and did not even know you were there.

Aj


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Re: Quality of the new Rigby double rifles? [Re: ajsaxin]
      #115501 - 25/09/08 07:42 PM

According to 'White Hunters' by Brian Herne, some of the best hunters in East Africa came from the nobility.

Even the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII), much maligned for abdicating and derided for other aspects of his life, apparently hunted with grit and determination. Bror Blixen (a baron and a great hunter) and Denys Finch-Hatton tracked an elephant with him for three or four days in blazing heat. Sleeping rough and short of food and water, they all had badly blistered feet by the end, but the prince kept up without complaint. True, he then stepped on a twig and the massive bull bolted, but I'm not sure that made him a bad hunter.

- Paul


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