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bwananelson
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Re: Denigrating the Remington / Baikal SxS [Re: bwananelson]
      #113044 - 31/08/08 07:39 AM

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the max pressure is right on the barrel what is 2200BAR OR 31900HST what does that translate to.i still have not fired the 3006 but there is no pressure warning on it. i will get a 45 70 just to make a set.for the money its a good gun that i wont go broke shooting,i have a 470,9.3x74R,a 450 400 but they get pricey to shoot even with reloads.


no one has stated what the numbers posted above mean they were taken right from the barrel theses are the pressure max i guess but what does it convert to

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Re: Denigrating the Remington / Baikal SxS [Re: bwananelson]
      #113046 - 31/08/08 07:50 AM

The direct conversion from 2200 BAR to PSI is 31,900 PSI. The SAAMI pressure rating for the 45-70 Gov't is 28,000 CUP, while the CIP rating is 32,000 PSI. So the 2200 BAR is the CIP pressure rating.

found this data so it should take a good hornaday factory load and not just the weeney trapdoor load this is starting to look better and better.

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Re: Denigrating the Remington / Baikal SxS [Re: bwananelson]
      #113048 - 31/08/08 07:57 AM

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The direct conversion from 2200 BAR to PSI is 31,900 PSI. The SAAMI pressure rating for the 45-70 Gov't is 28,000 CUP, while the CIP rating is 32,000 PSI. So the 2200 BAR is the CIP pressure rating.

found this data so it should take a good hornaday factory load and not just the weeney trapdoor load this is starting to look better and better.



You don't know what you're talking about. Remington is selling the gun, and they do know. They say 28,000 PSI SAAMI loads max. One more time, CIP and SAAMI pressure data are not the same.

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Re: Denigrating the Remington / Baikal SxS [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #113059 - 31/08/08 09:41 AM

here is where i came across my info is it right or wrong?
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=321902

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Re: Denigrating the Remington / Baikal SxS [Re: tarawa]
      #113062 - 31/08/08 10:05 AM

When Remington stepped in to take the Baikal agency over from EAA for the USA, I knew that we were going to end up with an overpriced product. Like it or not, that is Remington's way of doing things and after a particularly bad experience with a box of 8mm Mauser Remington manufactured ammunition that I bought in Wisconsin three or four years ago, everything that I have seen from that company has only been becoming worse. It is sad to see this happen to a company that did make decent guns in the past but that is besides the point.

The Russians make cheap guns for the most part which are sturdy and serviceable in their country's extreme environmental conditions. That said, as many far more knowledgeable members than I have pointed out here, none of these guns are meant to be modified beyond what the Russians wanted them to be. At $ 1000 this is still a reasonably priced gun though I do believe that the end of hunting season sale in the Spring of 2009 would be the best time to pick one of these rifles up if someone is seriously interested. Right now, these guns are new to the market and they will command a premium because some people "must" have them. I do think that the rifles will become popular in the future, and, once they are more widely available, dealers will no longer be able to charge a premium on them. Members here have bought EAA O/Us from CDNN Investments for $ 279 plus shipping. Considering that the SxS configuration probably sells at some slightly higher premium, whoever waits long enough should be able to get these rifles new at half their current retain price in the future. That is what they are worth and there is no need to expect Holland and Holland or even Spanish gun quality from Baikal.

Let's learn to be patient, gentlemen! Don't we do that sitting on tree stands in winter? This requires waiting longer but we can do it in the comfort of our own homes.

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Re: Denigrating the Remington / Baikal SxS [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #113418 - 03/09/08 09:02 AM

I do not see them listed on the Remington website any more. Have they been discontinued?

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Re: Denigrating the Remington / Baikal SxS [Re: Squarebridge]
      #113435 - 03/09/08 01:51 PM

i dont know about the 45 70's but when i called about the 06's they stated only 100 were impported and the 45 70's are listed even less so fewer or the same low number may have been brought in will wait and see they also make a 308 but not with the o6 i dont see the need

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