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TED
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6.5x54
      #87647 - 23/10/07 10:45 PM

Have a nice 1903 MS and am running low on ammo. Does someone know if anyone, besides custom shops, still manufactures/imports? I know I should reload.

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dons
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Re: 6.5x54 [Re: TED]
      #87648 - 23/10/07 11:26 PM

6.5x54MS is available from Old Western Scrounger

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333_okh
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Re: 6.5x54 [Re: dons]
      #88700 - 11/11/07 10:59 AM

Norma and RAUG [Hirtenberger]

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Nakihunter
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Re: 6.5x54 [Re: 333_okh]
      #88703 - 11/11/07 11:49 AM

I have a couple of packets of RWS ammo & one of Norma. I got these when I bought my 2 rifles. I reload & was able to source 50 RWS cases. Both RWS & norma cases are available here in NZ. So the US should be no problem.

Here are some pictures of my Mannlicher Schoenauer 1903 sporter - pre 1919.






This is a Greek militray carbine 18 inch barrel 1930 system reproduction of the 1903 model that was customised by an amature. I am now having a new Brownells bolt handle fitted along with a scope base (made on CNC machine by a guy in Ohio). I am also restocking it with a full length Semi fancy Walnut stock. Rust bluing will finish the job. It should take another 6 months.

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9.3x57
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Re: 6.5x54 [Re: Nakihunter]
      #88733 - 12/11/07 01:34 AM

Naki, that is a beautiful rifle! Just the thing to have along on afternoon jaunts after fallow deer!

I just checked Midway catalogue for Hornady and Norma. No dice. Not listed there. OWS is probably your best bet. Sounds like you ought to buy a pile of it.

The topic of this caliber {and the lamentable fact that it is not on every gunshop's shelf and difficult to find...} makes me want to hop up on my soapbox for a moment, so I will!!

The headsize and OAL of the 6.5x54 just begs for a proper modern rifle to chamber it. IMHO, the American companies are continually bringing out ridiculous "short mags" of one ilk and persuasion or the next, evidently demanded as "necessary" by their marketing experts as they try to sell more and more guns to guys who already have more and more guns. But I bet that 95% of American hunters spend 95% of their time deer hunting and if my experiences at public ranges is instructive, 95% of the fellows that buy the various "mags" are scared to death of them and NEVER shoot them enough to become proficient with them at all. A couple shots from the bench, with teeth clenched and eyes barely open "to check zero" is all many of those things get.

For years I used a .375 H&H Mag and heavy-loaded .45-70 for much of my deer hunting. Why? I don't know, they worked! But then I switched to the 6.5x55 and 7x57 and found out that they too work and in fact there are really quite a few situations where those calibers can be used and the heavier ones, well, not, or at least, not well. The lighter calibers make for better woods stalking rifles and for example, I have shot deer from the most bizarrely contorted and twisted positions using a rifle that simply doesn't kick, only to find out that on deer-sized game at reasonable ranges of 200 yards or less, there is no observable killing power difference between the "little" 6.5 and the .375. And now we train at the range from all sorts of positions that are not comfortable with the heavies. And I admit I need all the training I can get!

The mags offer a bit of range, and where that is demanded {and the shooter can make the shot.......} they have an advantage over such as the 6.5x54, 6.5x55 and 7x57, but for mass sale appeal, one of the lighter ones makes for an easy-shooting rifle that begs to be practiced with and as a result makes for better shooters, and in the final analysis, it is the shooting not the caliber that kills the vast majority of game animals which for the American hunter means deer.

Bravo the 6.5x54!! Though I admit all of this is a pipedream and the caliber is really in truth redundant {with the existence of the .260 Remington and 6.5x55}, I'd love to see some enterprising US rifle company spin out a light handy carbine with balance of a M-S. Impractical, unnecessary? Sure, but that is what US rifle making is all about!!

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JabaliHunter
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Re: 6.5x54 [Re: Nakihunter]
      #100649 - 28/03/08 10:29 PM

Came across this from a link in a more recent thread. That is a beautiful rifle! I have lusted after one of these in a full stock for longer than I can remember!

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88MauSporter
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Re: 6.5x54 [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #100702 - 29/03/08 06:45 AM

Great rifle. I especially like the striker peep sights. These are such handy light and accurate rifles for all around hunting up to the Bigger stuff. Say 500 lbs and below with good bullets. I was handling and considering a 9.5X56(57) in the same configuration today. No peep sight, but with claw mounts, no scope. What an nice piece of work.

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"A hunter should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everthing goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." 88MauSporter


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dnovo
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Re: 6.5x54 [Re: 88MauSporter]
      #100724 - 29/03/08 09:57 AM

Buffalo Arm in Idaho lists loaded ammo. I got some there about a year ago and it was fine. They run out from time to time but since they bring in the brass and most of their ammo is loaded for them locally, turn around time is usually decent if they are out of stock when you call. Dave

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