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Parabola
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Under 3 Flags - Steyr 6.5 x53R
      #384459 - 25/04/24 04:11 AM

https://i.imgur.com/mbQNoNH.jpg
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Buckstix’s recent post in DGJ Forum about a Sauer 8x57 taken into military service 1914/5 reminded me of this old veteran taken into service on the other side of the conflict at the same time.

It started life as a Model 1892 Steyr Mannlicher Romanian service rifle.

At some point prior to 1914 Daniel Fraser converted it to a stalking rife. He used the original military stock cut down to half length, added a longitudinal foresight dovetail for a caterpillar sporting foresight, a 3 leaf (all folding to clear the view for the Lyman cocking piece peep sight) express sight and cut a transverse dovetail for the Lyman sight at the back of the cocking piece.

The bolt handle, originally straight is curved down.

He marked the barrel “Shot and Regulated by” with his address and stamped a D. Fraser cartouche on the right side of the butt.

Then (note the British Government crossed flags Proof or Acceptance mark stamped partly over the NITRO PROOF mark on the barrel) it was taken into British military service.

A number of Mannlicher rifles in this calibre have been observed with these marks.

The late Tony Edwards, author of 4 volumes on British substitute standard Great War small arms, was unable to find any documentation on their purchases or deployment.

Theories include sniper use, sniper training or Royal Navy use to sink mines by trawler crews.

Edited by NitroX (10/06/24 11:56 PM)

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Re: Under 3 Flags - Steyr 6.5 x53R [Re: Parabola]
      #384462 - 25/04/24 05:17 AM

If only they could talk!

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Re: Under 3 Flags - Steyr 6.5 x53R [Re: 93x64mm]
      #384506 - 26/04/24 10:54 AM

Have you got any more pics of the rest of the rifle, would be interesting to see.

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Parabola
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Re: Under 3 Flags - Steyr 6.5 x53R [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #384831 - 15/05/24 04:40 AM

https://i.imgur.com/SED0Xur.jpg
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Hopefully a better picture as requested.

I don’t know why they come out so large on this site,

(Edit: because you are uploading very large images. The forums don't resize them for you. Or force a resized display image.
NitroX)

Scroll left and right to see each end,

Edited by NitroX (10/06/24 11:58 PM)

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Re: Under 3 Flags - Steyr 6.5 x53R [Re: Parabola]
      #385197 - 10/06/24 11:25 PM

see it just now, no problem, the bloody germans will fix it





this must be one of the first 10000 made when romania only order 5000 for a troop trial. then sold mostly to british gunmaker.
here is a comrade with a similar story - M 93 made in 1914 for Romania and still in the Steyr warehouse when the great war startet.seized by the austrian government and changed by steyr from 6,5x53R to 8x50R with a completly different clip. must be a nightmare to do this. then after the war ending sometimes as a hunting rifle. don't know if its realy for the 8x56R, don't believe it.
https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/re...er-1914--522625











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