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TH44
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Purdey .360 DR
      #373392 - 22/01/23 08:35 AM

Hi Guys, Bought this before Christmas at a good price










Usual 3 leaf backsight

Put a .360 case in it, dropped down 1/2"
Tried other .360s only one that fitted was the 400/360 2 3/4", so I thought it was an early version of that - so cut it down and fitted a bullet from the mould

Old mould came with it
First Problem, a 4.5mm hole drilled in the bottom so it could not be used!!

cut a 4.5mm drill off to plug hole and cast 10 bullets with difficulty

Now have 2 cartridges as display

Something was not right so I did what I should have done first, took a chamber cast

Oh dear !! in the past, someone had drilled/reamed the chambers so they wold not take a cartridge GRRRR

Thsi must have been done years ago in the UK when there was no exemption for early cartridge arms which would have had to be put on a Firearms certificate, also the reason for drilling the mould

Anyway, I have my first Purdey, in a nice little calibre but the damage/desecration takes the edge off it

Bonhams sold it as an antique not to be fired

Comments welcome but I am aware of the poor gun legislation in this country but I cannot change that

TH

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: TH44]
      #373395 - 22/01/23 08:48 AM

YIKES! Nice rifle, but?
Could a chambered sleeve be made for the chambers?

Almost looks like a .450 Express chamber has been cut (without throat, of course)

If this is so, perhaps a .450 case with liner could be used?

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: DarylS]
      #373397 - 22/01/23 10:04 AM

Hi Daryl

If I was in the U.S. I would get an insert chambered for the case I made up 400/360 2 1/4" as the extractors are cut larger so I could not fit the original .360 2 1/4"
The new "chambers are parallel and 90 degrees at the front so would fit easily. To save major re-soldering epoxy would probably be ok
But it looks like a collectors piece only unfortunately

Hope you guys keep the anti-gun crowd at bay to prevent this happening
In the UK now it would be legal as original and put on certificate to shoot

Tony

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: TH44]
      #373398 - 22/01/23 10:09 AM

You are saying it would be legal or illegal, Tony?
Shameful to do this to it.

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: DarylS]
      #373403 - 22/01/23 11:16 AM

It needed a firearm certificate until 1990s as a cartridge rifle

Now it would be an "obsolete calibre" and legal to have without restriction (which is what I thought it was) unless you wanted to shoot it then it would need a certificate

Nothing is easy and straightforward here!

Tony

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: TH44]
      #373406 - 22/01/23 12:13 PM

I'd get the chambers sleeved and chambered back to the original 360 and shoot black powder only in it.
May become a 360 3" of sorts though since it looks to have been reamed longer than 2-1/2"
If you can't find a smith there willing to do that, I bet a buyer could be found in the US whom would be willing to have it done here.

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: Huvius]
      #373421 - 23/01/23 05:22 AM

Nice wall hanger. If nothing better can be done with it.

I hope you didn't pay too much for it.

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: NitroX]
      #373437 - 23/01/23 04:04 PM

Could a modern rimmed case such as 470NE be sized/trimmed or whatever to fit the chamber, the chamber cast looks quite similar to a 470 case but if not maybe other cases around that could be used to fit the chamber.

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: NitroX]
      #373438 - 23/01/23 04:28 PM

Quote:

Nice wall hanger. If nothing better can be done with it.

I hope you didn't pay too much for it.



My thoughts exactly. He can't "fix it" to shoot it as it no longer can be licensed for shooting. It was purchased as a non-shooting wall hanger.
Those laws are stiff.
Now, if someone here or in the States had it, it could be salvaged to shooting condition.

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: DarylS]
      #373476 - 25/01/23 10:27 PM

I believe the chambers can be sleeved by a qualified gunmaker. I would choose the gunmaker very carefully.

Curly

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: CptCurl]
      #373486 - 26/01/23 10:01 AM

Thanks for the input guys

As Curly and Huvius have said the ideal would be to rechamber to the original .360

I will try to find a good smith who can make an insert (it is 12mm x 54mm parallel [.470 x 2.13"])
so would be relatively straightforward for the .400/360 2 1/2" without re making the extractors but will take advice on that and whether a simple chamber insert would be OK
I would only shoot BP in it anyway

Tony

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: TH44]
      #373488 - 26/01/23 11:28 AM

It would be so nice, if you could make it work, again.

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: DarylS]
      #373502 - 26/01/23 10:28 PM

Quote:

It would be so nice, if you could make it work, again.



Amen to that, it really is a very pretty little gun indeed.
It would be a criminal waste to see it turn into just a wall hanger

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: 93x64mm]
      #373724 - 01/02/23 11:12 PM

I see no problem to change the extractors by tig welding a piece of steel on this.

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: lancaster]
      #373725 - 02/02/23 12:50 AM

A restoration of the extractor should not cost you much money

If that rifle was on my bench I'd have a hard time resisting doing whatever it took to get it running again

It looks like it will handle like a magic wand

I look forward to seeing how you do with it

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Re: Purdey .360 DR [Re: tinker]
      #373744 - 02/02/23 11:17 AM

I now find out that it was rechambered for a .410 x 2 1/2" case, to make it legally a shotgun (with no intention of it being used as a shotgun) which in the 1960s/70s was not uncommon in the UK at that time to prevent it being classed as a firearm for which a certificate was required GRRRRR

I am chasing a guy who has made cases for me in the past to see if he can make an insert
I have also talked to another guy who, as Lancaster says is able to TIG weld the extractors to fit the correct cartridge

Many thanks for your input

TH

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