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casper50
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Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925
#373171 - 16/01/23 08:52 AM

This also came in the shipment this weekend. What I believe is a 1925 MS in 30-06. Very well balanced and light weight rifle. The cocking knob has been dovetailed for a bolt peep but it's missing sadly. Will have to try and find one. The front sight has me puzzled. I believe that the polished disc set at an angle is to reflect light on the rear of the blade. Sadly the rear portion of the blade looks as if it's missing. Anxious to shoot this one.

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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: casper50]
#373180 - 16/01/23 10:38 AM

Agreed, the bead appears to have been broken off the rear of the front sight.
I am not familiar with a 7.62x53??
It is a Swiss 8x53 Schmidt Ruben necked down?

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casper50
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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: DarylS]
#373181 - 16/01/23 10:43 AM

Suppose to be the European designation for the 30-06

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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: casper50]
#373190 - 16/01/23 02:25 PM

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Suppose to be the European designation for the 30-06

If 30-06 would it not be designated 7.62 x 63 using European cartridge nomenclature? Can't see in the photo clearly but looks to be 7.62 x 5 something?

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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: eagle27]
#373191 - 16/01/23 03:16 PM

yes, 30 06 is 7,62x63
we need a better pic to see whats there

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casper50
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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: lancaster]
#373200 - 16/01/23 08:20 PM

“An excellent type of front sight is the King, having a built-in reflector, a slightly convex piece of chromium set into the base of the sight to pick up all overhead and side light and throw it on the bead. This makes the King bead stand out sharply even in dull light. On occasion, it can be used under starlight and excellently under moonlight. Regardless of the intensity of light, if the flat-face bead is used this reflection of light on the bead itself is surprisingly uniform, varying only in intensity which is dependent upon the source of supply.”

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casper50
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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: casper50]
#373201 - 16/01/23 08:35 PM

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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: casper50]
#373290 - 19/01/23 02:04 PM

Your 'M1925' (as referred to by today's collectors) was made pre WW2, as evidenced by trap door buttplate), after 1924 ('Made in Austria' on bridge), and before 1938 (not made in Germany).

If the receiver side stamping is Oesterr Waffenfabrik. Ges. Steyr its receiver was produced no later than 1926. If stamped Steyr Werke AG it dates between 1926 - 1938.

The proofs will tell the story from there.

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casper50
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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: Rothhammer1]
#373291 - 19/01/23 04:23 PM

These are all of the proofmarks and markings on it. I do not see a date code.

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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: casper50]
#373318 - 20/01/23 08:30 AM

31 is the year of proof, 1931. From the late 1920s on the proofhouse ledger number was not marked on Steyr made rifles any more. Apparently the Vienna proofhouse simply listed them by serial number from then on.
I don't have much faith in the style of receiver inscription for dating. Sometimes a workman simply grabbed an old, outdated stamp and applied it. My own 1957 proof dated 6.5x68 M-S rifle is marked "MODELL 1950" on the receiver ring, though it is obviously a post-1952 "Magnum" action without clip guides, with an additional side safety and low bolt handle.

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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: kuduae]
#373321 - 20/01/23 09:57 AM

Thanks Kuduae.

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Re: Another from the shipment. What I believe is a Mdl 1925 [Re: kuduae]
#373351 - 21/01/23 10:46 AM

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From the late 1920s on the proofhouse ledger number was not marked on Steyr made rifles any more. Apparently the Vienna proofhouse simply listed them by serial number from then on.

Very interesting, and valuable information.

Do you know about when in the 1920s this change occurred?

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