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Igorrock
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Interestin Mannlicher Schönauer for sale.
#360929 - 23/01/22 05:04 AM

This Mannlicher m1910 is for sale in local gun shop. They tell it's caliber is 6,5x54. At first I thought they have make a mistake but then I inspected more carefully it´s sights. The front one seems to be more rear than normaly and the rear sight looks quite much similar like british Enfield rifles have. What do you think ? Klick every photo to get it bigger.

https://www.jennynase.fi/Tuotteet/337-steyr-mannlicher-schoenauer-65x54/#wbs2

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Re: Interestin Mannlicher Schönauer for sale. [Re: Igorrock]
#360934 - 23/01/22 08:49 AM

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This Mannlicher m1910 is for sale in local gun shop. They tell it's caliber is 6,5x54. At first I thought they have make a mistake but then I inspected more carefully it´s sights. The front one seems to be more rear than normaly and the rear sight looks quite much similar like british Enfield rifles have. What do you think ? Klick every photo to get it bigger.

Not much can be determined from the photos but that the receiver is clearly an M1910 which, as I'm sure you know, would have originally been chambered for 9.5X57 (.375 Nitro Express Rimless 2.25") and that it bears the Oesterr, Waffenfabr.- Ges. Steyr stamping that was changed in 1926. It is not stamped 'Made In Austria' on the bridge which dates the receiver no later than 1924.

Other than that all is guesswork without images of proofs and other stampings.

The rebated front sights are not uncommon, often seen on early examples.

The rear sight may have been added post - manufacture, perhaps along with a rebarrel to 6.5X54?

These sights are pictured in a 1935 Steyr catalog:

Here are the photos of stutzen from your post:

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Re: Interestin Mannlicher Schönauer for sale. [Re: Rothhammer1]
#360955 - 23/01/22 07:07 PM

Normally I would say "do a chamber cast, and then you will be sure".

In this case, there is a much more simple step one:

Look at the muzzle. Is that a 9.5mm hole or a 6.5mm hole?

THEN cast the chamber to be sure.

M1910 is 9.5X57. To change it to 6.5X54, they would have had to change the barrel, change the bolt (the chamber rim is a different size), change the magazine... and then re-proof the whole thing.

But a big 9.5mm hole in the muzzle would be your first clue that it probably wasn't changed. A smaller hole would make me look at other things.

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Re: Interestin Mannlicher Schönauer for sale. [Re: DonZ]
#360960 - 23/01/22 11:02 PM

very unusual but looks to be factory made

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Re: Interestin Mannlicher Schönauer for sale. [Re: lancaster]
#360964 - 24/01/22 01:48 AM

One detail which makes me thinking re-barreling is that 2-3 millimeter wide groove between barrel and action. I just found this rifle from internet so I do not have any way to see barrels muzzle and make a chamfer cast.

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Re: Interestin Mannlicher Schönauer for sale. [Re: Igorrock]
#360966 - 24/01/22 02:35 AM

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One detail which makes me thinking re-barreling is that 2-3 millimeter wide groove between barrel and action. I just found this rifle from internet so I do not have any way to see barrels muzzle and make a chamfer cast.

I noticed the gap as well, plainly visible in photo #1.

There also seems to be something odd toward front of the bolt.

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