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casper50
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Model 1910
      #359547 - 22/12/21 09:08 AM

Finally picked up my shipment from England. This was in it. 1910 Steyr Mannlicher in .375 ex. I have no idea what the perforated piece of metal above the chamber is for but it's soldered on so it's coming off. I think it might be hiding something for a scope mount.








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DarylS
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Re: Model 1910 [Re: casper50]
      #359552 - 22/12/21 12:29 PM

Sweet!

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Re: Model 1910 [Re: DarylS]
      #359567 - 22/12/21 09:44 PM

It's a soldered on custom made spacer to take the front base of a post-WW2 Steyr side-swing mount, now missing, on the barrel reinforce instead on the receiver ring. The rear mount base is still there, but don't ask me where to find a proper front base or rings to fit. These mounts are out of print since the 1970s and unoptainable now. My advice: remove the spacer and the rear base and start anew.

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JDL
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Re: Model 1910 [Re: kuduae]
      #359636 - 25/12/21 08:48 AM

That's a crispy one. I like!

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casper50
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Re: Model 1910 [Re: JDL]
      #359673 - 26/12/21 10:58 PM

I removed the sight shim and cleaned and cold blued it. Didn't turn out near as bad as I thought that it might. I know what most of the proof marks are but there's a couple that I do not know. +2, -2 and 8 8 3 20. Sorry I know some of the photos aren't great but I didn't check them until I had the rifle back together.

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Re: Model 1910 [Re: casper50]
      #359690 - 27/12/21 08:44 AM

Looks much better now!
Do you intend to put optics back on this one Casper, or just with open sights?
Tough call!


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casper50
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Re: Model 1910 [Re: 93x64mm]
      #359691 - 27/12/21 08:51 AM

I have a set of bases and rings for a 1903. I haven't checked to see if they will fit though. Stock fits so that the sights line right up without having to move my head around. I can still see the iron sights but I do prefer a scope now. I'll have to check.

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Re: Model 1910 [Re: casper50]
      #359704 - 27/12/21 09:48 PM

Quote:

I have a set of bases and rings for a 1903. I haven't checked to see if they will fit though. I'll have to check.



As the receivers are of the same dimensions, a scope mount for the M 1903 fits the 05, 08, 1910 as well. They may even be adapted to the 24. 25 and 1950 models.


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JDL
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Re: Model 1910 [Re: kuduae]
      #359743 - 29/12/21 04:58 AM

You did a good job casper and it looks much better now!

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Re: Model 1910 [Re: JDL]
      #359744 - 29/12/21 05:10 AM

Yes- looks much better & if the plate was never there.

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casper50
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Re: Model 1910 [Re: DarylS]
      #359754 - 29/12/21 06:36 AM

Thanks I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out.

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Re: Model 1910 [Re: casper50]
      #359838 - 31/12/21 01:10 AM

Quote:

I know what most of the proof marks are but there's a couple that I do not know. +2, -2 and 8 8 3 20.




Regarding your proof marks:

The +2 and -2 stamps are indications of chamber depth that were used at the Steyr factory to match depth of threads in receiver to barrel. My M1910 Take Down Model bears '+15 and -15' stamps.

Your '883.20' stamp indicates the 883rd arm to be Nitro Proofed during calendar year 1920 at the Vienna Proof House which is indicated by the NPv stamp.

The 2860 is your stutzen's serial number from Osterr Waffenfabrik Ges. Steyr and you should find matching numbers stamped on underside of bolt handle as well as on stock under the barrel.

The 'T in circle' indicates Tiegellgusstahl, a high quality 'crucible steel' processed in the Steyr region, the 'V in circle' is also a mark from OWGS.

As you may already know, the 'Cordite 43 - 270 MAX' is a British mark indicating a proof load of 43 grains Cordite pushing a 270 grain projectile and '375 EX' is abbreviation of .375 Nitro Express Rimless, the British designation for the 9.5X57 cartridge.

You have several British proofs consistent with your rifle's time of manufacture and that the M1910 was popular with the British trade at that time.








Properly headstamped brass can be obtained from Quality Cartridge (Qual - Cart). Woodleigh still makes a .375, 270 grain round nosed projectile of the proper profile which, along with proper seating depth for precisely correct cartridge length, is vital for proper feeding through the Schoenauer rotary magazine. If you can find Hornady #3715, they also work very well.

Cases may also be formed from several 'donors' of the 8mm / .30-'06 'family'. I have had excellent results forming .35 Whelen brass through a two die RCBS set, then cut to length and stuffed with Hornady 3715 in the past. It is best to draw 'donor brass' straight prior to sizing, particularly with '_x57' brass as the donor shoulders will be lower and narrower than 9.5X57 which relies on its rather slight shoulder to headspace and to prevent stretching near the base.

Make your cartridges _exactly_ to dimensions shown in this Eley diagram and they will feed like melted butter on hot glass through your Mannlicher Schoenauer M1910:








Original DWM 531:



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casper50
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Re: Model 1910 [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #359840 - 31/12/21 02:50 AM

Thanks Rothhammer. I have cases and dies from a previous 1910 that ended up being so shot out it was smooth bored. I saved them as I knew that I was going to own another.

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Re: Model 1910 [Re: casper50]
      #360039 - 05/01/22 02:30 AM

The Speer 235 semi-spitzers (#2471) feed and shoot nicely in my 1910 also. They are also a bonded bullet and hold up well on game.

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