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Clark
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Three M-S 1903 together
      #358595 - 27/11/21 02:11 AM

Recently on a very sunny day these three Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903s met for an outdoor get together.

They are all in .256, two of them made in England, and the third an Austria made but for East Africa through Chas Hayer & Co.

After the pictures where taken, we had a small driven hunt to see if we could find a deer or a boar, but without luck. But just having those rifles out made up for that.

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Clark]
      #358598 - 27/11/21 03:40 AM

Very nice.

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: NitroX]
      #358600 - 27/11/21 05:16 AM

I'll say. For some reason, (I like long rifles - longrifles) I really like the long bl's and long forend rifle.



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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: DarylS]
      #358605 - 27/11/21 08:07 AM

Very nice. Thanks for sharing. Too bad about not finding any deer or boars.

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Clark]
      #358608 - 27/11/21 12:15 PM

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They are all in .256, two of them made in England, and the third an Austria made but for East Africa through Chas Hayer & Co.





Very nice.

What are the barrel lengths?

Is the one at center a 'sporterized Greek'? It has an unusually shaped trigger, and what is the function of the apparatus inset above trigger?

The third is clearly a Take Down Model.

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Clark
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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #358629 - 28/11/21 12:24 AM

Thanks!

Barrel length on the longest one is 27,5", I guess because it was ordered for Africa. Not sure about the other ones as they are not mine.

The middle one is not a sporterized Greek, it is a normal 1903. But the trigger has been replaced with a Recknagel one. The apparatus above it is a Greener safety usually seen on Greener shotguns or German drillings. But it was removed when the trigger was replaced.

Yes, the third, which is mine, is a take down. More information about that rifle here: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=211610&an=0&page=23#Post211610

The first is actually a take down as well, or at least it was originally before it was stocked in England, as it has the small lever in front of the trigger guard.

/C

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Clark]
      #358674 - 28/11/21 11:24 PM

Shame the hunt wasn't successful, but at least you got out & had an outing - well done mate!

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: 93x64mm]
      #358693 - 29/11/21 11:02 AM

Marvelous stuff, Clark!

Vintage theme outings/hunts are great.
Everyone should do this as often as possible!

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Clark]
      #358722 - 30/11/21 06:27 PM

Quote:

Thanks!


Yes, the third, which is mine, is a take down. More information about that rifle here: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=211610&an=0&page=23#Post211610





From the link:

It also features a removable pistol grip cap (in horn) with a replacement front sight wrapped in paper inside (this wasn't mentioned in the auction text BTW). You press the small button and turn the cap 90 degrees and lift it up, I haven't seen this on any other rifle.

From Kiwi_bloke's reply to above:

My 1927 M.1910 in 9,5x57 M.Sch has the same arrangement of a removable horn pistol grip cap with the same sight wrapped in newspaper.

And:

The M.1910 has a steel buttplate rather than a pad and this has a couple of spare rounds and a cleaning rod (take-down), under a trap. It also has a Baillie-Grohman peep sight that folds down when the bolt is cocked and then back up again.

My 1922 proofed M1910 Take Down Model with 60 cm barrel also has the grip cap storage and folding peep sight, though I had not before heard of the sight being referred to as 'Baillie-Grohman'.

As I'm sure you're aware by now, the steel trap door buttplate with storage was 'standard' on the pre WW2 Mannlicher Schoenauer sporting rifles and carbines.

The 1939 Stoeger catalog (US) listed the 'special folding peep sight' as a $12.00 cost option, as well as the option of various barrel lengths for $15.00, but not the removable grip cap. The 'Takedown Model' also carried an additional charge of $15.00, about the equivalent of today's $298.48 USD:



The 'special folding peep sight' and cleaning rods stored in trap door butt plate are shown in image below from '39 Stoeger:

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #358754 - 01/12/21 01:20 PM

Beautiful rifles !!!!!!!!!!
Robert

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #358813 - 02/12/21 04:59 PM

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My 1922 proofed M1910 Take Down Model with 60 cm barrel also has the grip cap storage and folding peep sight, though I had not before heard of the sight being referred to as 'Baillie-Grohman'.





A similar peep sight:



Westley Richards, 1912:



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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Clark]
      #359186 - 15/12/21 12:57 AM

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Who makes those red recoil pads?

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: rpeck]
      #359638 - 25/12/21 09:23 AM

Great rifles for the hunt! Too bad the game was uncooperative.

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: rpeck]
      #359665 - 26/12/21 07:36 PM

Quote:

Quote:







Who makes those red recoil pads?



Silvers?

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: NitroX]
      #359667 - 26/12/21 09:12 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:







Who makes those red recoil pads?



Silvers?


and GFT in Germany: https://www.gft-gmbh.de/index.php?id=41&L=0%2525252522%2525252522
may ce ordered through: https://hunterfox.de/

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: NitroX]
      #359668 - 26/12/21 09:18 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:







Who makes those red recoil pads?



Silvers?



and GFT in Germany: https://www.gft-gmbh.de/index.php?id=41&L=0%2525252522%2525252522
may ce ordered through: https://hunterfox.de/

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: kuduae]
      #359933 - 02/01/22 09:19 AM

The "proper" quintessential British red/orange pad are by S. W. Silver, they can be sourced from Kynamco.
http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk
&
http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk/silvers.html

Kynamco can sometimes be "difficult" to contact……

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: 3DogMike]
      #359962 - 03/01/22 02:54 AM

Quote:

The "proper" quintessential British red/orange pad are by S. W. Silver, they can be sourced from Kynamco.
http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk
&
http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk/silvers.html

Kynamco can sometimes be "difficult" to contact……

- Mike



Thank you very much for the information.

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: rpeck]
      #359963 - 03/01/22 03:32 AM

Great looking rifles. Congrats

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Re: Three M-S 1903 together [Re: Ripp]
      #360301 - 11/01/22 09:13 PM

Thanks!

Yes, the recoil pads are all from Silvers.

/C

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