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Bagboy
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Mannlicher Schoenauer 6.5x57 "MADE IN GERMANY"
      #259329 - 22/01/15 01:28 PM

I was asked to post this so it could be verified as an Original Mannlicher Schoenauer. It has a claw mount with a B. Nickel scope that also has Made in Germany. It has the cleaning rod in the buttplate. I bought it around 15 years ago and was told a WWII veteran brought it back to the U.S.A.

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Re: Mannlicher Schoenauer 6.5x57 "MADE IN GERMANY" [Re: Bagboy]
      #259330 - 22/01/15 01:37 PM

There is a picture of the top of the receiver on the post below "MADE IN GERMANY". I'm having trouble getting it loaded on this post.

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Re: Mannlicher Schoenauer 6.5x57 "MADE IN GERMANY" [Re: Bagboy]
      #259373 - 23/01/15 07:18 PM

It suggests it was made during the years when Austria, (where it would have been made in the great Steyr Works), was joined politically to Germany. So it would have been made, (or later mostly assembled from parts), just before or during the Second World War period. It certainly looks like a Mannlicher Schoenauer of this period.

If there are other proof marks, some hidden by the stock, this might help tell this rifles story further. Perhaps it will include the year. (The model number on the receiver, such as M1924, is not the year).

I've only seen one Mannlicher stamped, "Made in Germany" which was an 8x56 M.Sch. Model 1908. It came with a letter authenticating it's provenance, essentially brought back from Germany just after the war. Often the finish is a bit lacking due to war-time shortages and so on. This one looks fairly normal in the picture. It's a good calibre too!


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Re: Mannlicher Schoenauer 6.5x57 "MADE IN GERMANY" [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
      #259382 - 23/01/15 11:19 PM

IMHO it is a true Steyr factory made rifle from the 1938 to 1945 period. Not a catalog, but a very rare special order item. Obviously, shape of bolt stop, it was put together on a short Magazine model 03-05 action, not on a long magazine M 1925 one. Though the M-Sch standard 6.5mm cartridge was the 6.5x54 MS, the flat shooting 6.5x57 loads featuring a 93 to 96 gr pointed bullet at a "magic" speed of 1000 m/sec = 3280 fps was quite popular among the "Reichsdeutschen" (non-Austrian Germans)during the 1930s for mountain hunting, much ballyhoed by hunting journals.

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Re: Mannlicher Schoenauer 6.5x57 "MADE IN GERMANY" [Re: kuduae]
      #259445 - 25/01/15 04:55 PM

That I did not know, though I have a 6,5x68 loaded with RWS 93-grain bullets, (going a little faster!), which I consider would be ideal for Chamois. It's flat shooting and so helps eliminate some of the issues of range estimation. But I can see how the 6,5x57 would have been seen in the same light in the 1930's as it doesn't take a 160-grain bullet to knock down a Gamsbock. In fact, the more I think about the lighter weight of the standard length 6,5x57 action in the mountains, the more I like the idea.

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