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gryphon
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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #220441 - 28/11/12 06:20 PM

Is there any particular reason that the targets are so high off the ground?

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: gryphon]
      #220459 - 28/11/12 11:57 PM

Not particularly, other than it easier to install at this hight and the targets of these big bore rifles often stand at this hight.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #222526 - 30/12/12 04:32 AM

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Three Verney-Carron's, one Famars and one Sabati;

470, 470, 450, 470 and 500



Congratulations on a very fine double!

I was just wondering on the different finishes on the rifles in the picture:

First one has a curved line between receiver and wood, but has a "clean" receiver otherwise. Is it the PH of today?

The second one I persume is Adams excellent double? I really like the straight line between the receiver and wood. Likewise the spliter for end.
The receiver however is different from the others. Are the others the more "english style" they also offer?

Does anyone have pictures of these rifles closer up, perhaps describing which "extras" they have compared to the Azur PH currently made?

If I choose to put in an order for one, IŽd like it to be "english" in the receiver, preferably straight line between the receiver and wood, along with a splinter forend.

I would very much appreciate some feedback on this.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Bonde]
      #222547 - 30/12/12 10:44 AM

bonde-I will try and help, all the V-C guns are made to order so you can get the receiver with or without a scallop, you also have a choice of splinter or semi-beavertail forearm, same with the grip angle, barrel length, sights, engraving, etc.
Talk to your local importer and he should be able to help with your questions.
A couple of pdf catalogs can be seen at verney-carron.us

Edited by Kebco (30/12/12 10:45 AM)

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Kebco]
      #222644 - 31/12/12 03:54 PM

Bonde,
The first one is a Azur PH and like you I prefer the straight back of the action.
I would also look at a shorter splinter fore-end with 24" barrels, reverse checkering on the pistol grip, 70mm drop in heal and in ether 450NE, 470NE or 500NE.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #222648 - 31/12/12 06:09 PM

Instead of the usual (IMO) nasty Beesley fore end release I'd much prefere a Rigby type lever. (they can't go wrong)

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: kamilaroi]
      #223215 - 09/01/13 10:38 AM

What is the weight on this particular rifle Adam?

Would a .500 reach a manageable weight when it is made to balance nicely with 26" bbl?

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Bonde]
      #223244 - 09/01/13 05:24 PM

Bonde, I ordered it to be 10.25lbs but I have not checked.
Imo, a 500NE needs to weigh in at around 11lbs. they would need to add more lead to the stock to balance it out.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #225077 - 10/02/13 06:22 PM

Had the opportunity to shoot a few round today and fine tuned the sights to my preferred position of "dead on" at 40m off hand.
Like most double riles today, they seem to be set for the "6olclock position" which is a more accurate method but for game hunting I find it not as natural for quick aiming.
Before straight from factory. 6 shots off hand at 60m;

After adjusting v sight.6 shots at 40m off hand (the way this rifle will be used);


Edited by CptCurl (13/02/13 10:45 PM)

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #225078 - 10/02/13 07:21 PM

Mighty fine shooting

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Rigby350]
      #225079 - 10/02/13 07:53 PM

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Mighty fine shooting


Happy take it after Jumbo now.
Harry, Note the position of shadow's..

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #225095 - 11/02/13 12:46 PM

Just noticed it, we will have to try shooting in the afternoon and see if we get the opposite effect.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: kamilaroi]
      #225137 - 12/02/13 06:05 AM

Kamilaroi--
"Instead of the usual (IMO) nasty Beesley fore end release I'd much prefere a Rigby type lever. (they can't go wrong"
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Kamilaroi, Where in the world are you getting the idea that these are Beesley forend releases? Two major releases are usually used on modern doubles, the Anson release, and the Deeley release. The Anson is usually used on sxs, while the Deeley usually used on over/unders, but especially used by German makers today. One was originally designed by Anson, and the other by Deeley, who worked for Westley Richards at the time. The Anson is extremely durable; hardly ever wears to point it won't work correctly, and is the simplest to make and fit to a double, compared to the Deeley release. What you are calling a Rigby release is also very simple in design, and very effective in use, but it wasn't designed originally by Rigby either! If I recall correctly, it was designed by W.C. Scott.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: doubleriflejack]
      #225893 - 24/02/13 08:12 PM

Out for a walk this morning and shot this small Boar at 50+ meters;


Edited by CptCurl (25/02/13 11:07 PM)

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #225921 - 25/02/13 05:31 AM

Fantastic!!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Matabele]
      #227428 - 23/03/13 08:48 PM

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Fantastic!!


Matebele,
Hope to use it in Matebeleland soon!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #227440 - 24/03/13 01:06 AM




Matebele,
Hope to use it in Matebeleland soon!



Great stuff, good to hear Oz!! I'm sure you're going to love it! When are you heading out, plains game or DG? Please keep us posted on that one.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Matabele]
      #227456 - 24/03/13 11:48 AM

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Matebele,
Hope to use it in Matebeleland soon!



Great stuff, good to hear Oz!! I'm sure you're going to love it! When are you heading out, plains game or DG? Please keep us posted on that one.



Yes I have hunted out of Bulawayo many time and I know I'm going to enjoy it.
Elephant in August.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #235703 - 16/09/13 10:27 PM





Edited by CptCurl (17/09/13 09:04 AM)

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #235710 - 17/09/13 08:26 AM

Adam, that is a lovely looking rifle.

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