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Ripp
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The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action ...
      #365198 - 04/05/22 03:14 AM

The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action: A Great Combo for Big-Game Hunting

The .348 Win. was only chambered to the Winchester Mode 71 tubular-magazined lever-action rifle. It was—and remains—a big-game go-to combination.

https://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/348-win-winchester-model-71-big-game-hunting/460143

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Re: The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action ... [Re: Ripp]
      #365205 - 04/05/22 08:43 AM

Back when I was well into shooting everything with my 1895.405 WCF, a friend offered to let me shoot his M71 .348. That friend is 6ft 4 inch and a Marine, so he thought his M71 did not have much recoil and I took a couple of shots with the .348. I liked the style, weight, and balance, but not the recoil, which caused the barrel to flip up way too far. Magna Porting might have helped, but I much preferred my heavier 1895 .405, a caliber which I also shoot in a DR.

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Re: The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action ... [Re: crshelton]
      #365233 - 05/05/22 02:10 AM

The model 71, looks just about identical to my "new" Pedersoli model 1886/71 in .45/70 (African Version).

All joking aside, the model 71 Winchester was a terrific rifle and ctg. My Wolf Publishing Wildcat Rifles and Ctgs. has an article and data on the .348 IMP, along with of course, the .450 Alaskan and .50 Alaskan, both barreled and chambered on model 71 rifles by Harold Johnson of Cooper's Landing Alaska.

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Re: The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action ... [Re: DarylS]
      #365235 - 05/05/22 03:44 AM

Quote:

The model 71, looks just about identical to my "new" Pedersoli model 1886/71 in .45/70 (African Version).

All joking aside, the model 71 Winchester was a terrific rifle and ctg. My Wolf Publishing Wildcat Rifles and Ctgs. has an article and data on the .348 IMP, along with of course, the .450 Alaskan and .50 Alaskan, both barreled and chambered on model 71 rifles by Harold Johnson of Cooper's Landing Alaska.



I have been in love with this combo for a very long time.. Picked up an original carbine model pre-covid .. have never fired it..

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Re: The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action ... [Re: DarylS]
      #365240 - 05/05/22 07:25 AM

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the .450 Alaskan and .50 Alaskan, both barreled and chambered on model 71 rifles by Harold Johnson of Cooper's Landing Alaska.


Now these would be heavy recoiling numbers!
Give a new meaning to the the most powerful chambering in a lever actioned rifle!

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Re: The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action ... [Re: 93x64mm]
      #365241 - 05/05/22 08:47 AM

Not bad, but more than the .348. H> Johnson's .450 Alaskan on the 86/71 platform, drove 465gr. at about 1,950fps t0 2,33fps & 500gr. Hornady at up to 1,880fps & similar vel. with cast bullets.
My .458 Alaskan in a model 70 Winchester, ran 500gr. Hornady's at 2,250fps & 400gr. Barnes at almost 2,500fps. It kicked me too hard. Didn 't like that at all, so cut the threads off and re-chambered it to .458 2". 400gr. at 2,150fps was much nicer shooting. Then, I sold it to my buddy Keith, for guiding.
The case capacity of the .450 Alaskan is approximately 7gr. more than a .458 Winchester.

The .50 Alaskan ran Harold's 450gr. at 1,900s'ps. .485gr. LBT at 2,009fps with IMR4198 & up to 1,892fps and 450's at 1,994fps with Re#7.

Harold made his own .50 cal. 450gr. custom bullets be sectioning 750gr. .50 Browning bullets, then reversing them, shooting the then truncated cone cup-point jacketed steel core on brown bears. Harold noted they created cavitation as well as penetrating the full length of a brown bear.

The free recoil of the .50 Alaskan in the model 71 was something over 55fpe, which is in the realm of a normal .458 Winchester rifle, perhaps slightly more with full power loads.

So, Art, if the .348 isn't "enough" gun, there are other options for it.

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Re: The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action ... [Re: DarylS]
      #365340 - 08/05/22 11:56 PM

I have a special relation with the 348 win too but never had such a rifle in my hands. when starting reloading with a press in the early 1990s first cartridge I need was the 8x50R Lebel and the only way than was resizing Winchester 348 brass. that's were I had first success and first mistakes.

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Re: The .348 Win. and Winchester Model 71 Lever Action ... [Re: lancaster]
      #365342 - 09/05/22 02:19 AM

The .348 Case is the basis for or can be used for quite a number of different rounds & has been "wildcatted" extensively.
It is very strong in the base and web area.

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