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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Rule303]
      #329179 - 06/06/19 05:01 PM

Sooo, everybody is agreed based on the above Kudu shot that the 270 Winchester is definatley a girls rifle........
Problem solved

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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: paradox_]
      #329183 - 06/06/19 10:02 PM

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Sooo, everybody is agreed based on the above Kudu shot that the 270 Winchester is definatley a girls rifle........
Problem solved




AND, so it continues..

But yes, it is agreed..it's just like a man's rifle but built for women, children and such...

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Edited by Ripp (06/06/19 10:03 PM)


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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Ripp]
      #329187 - 06/06/19 11:31 PM

After that article and all these posts bad mouthing the .270, I bet it is a buyers market for .270's.

Humm, wonder if that was the author's motive.

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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: DoubleD]
      #329188 - 06/06/19 11:54 PM

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After that article and all these posts bad mouthing the .270, I bet it is a buyers market for .270's.

Humm, wonder if that was the author's motive.






I believe most of the posts bad mouthing the .270 were meant in fun.. poking fellow members a bit is all... I have a .270.. might even have 2, heck I don't know..have only used one once for a mule deer hunt.. have to admit they are a VERY low recoiling round.. just not my cup of tea..but each to their own.. if you like the .270, then by all means use it and enjoy it...

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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: szihn]
      #329189 - 07/06/19 02:15 AM

I lost the first kudu I ever shot while using a 270 win so I don’t exactly love it but I kind of want to. I sold a Weatherby MV Sub MOA in that cartridge because I could not get it to shoot. My Ruger Safari Express was not much better and it’s gone as well.

The 270 Ruger went on my first safari 10 years ago and I had developed a load using 130 Barnes Xs, on the last practice day it gave me serious pressure signs so I bough a box of 160 Core Lokts. They shot ok so got 3 more for the trip.

I hit the kudu at 260m ( on the shoulder as claimed by the PH) shooting uphill and put another one in his rear going straight up, hit him again at 330m (probably a gut shot) one more at 410m (probably low and far back). Could have shot again but the PH told me he was done for, instead of falling over he walked behind a bush and .... .

Obviously bad shooting on my part but by sound and visual indicators the guide, scout and me all thought he was hit 4 times. We tracked him for three miles until dark and never saw him again.

Was it the fault of the 270 Winchester, the bullets, PH or me? Obviously my fault for not prescribing enough off sticks but there are others factors as well.

Now I shoot my 300 Weatherby on pretty much everything in africa except DG. Using 175gr Barnes XLR at 3250fps I know it’s pretty much always my fault.

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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Rell]
      #329191 - 07/06/19 03:20 AM

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I lost the first kudu I ever shot while using a 270 win so I don’t exactly love it but I kind of want to. I sold a Weatherby MV Sub MOA in that cartridge because I could not get it to shoot. My Ruger Safari Express was not much better and it’s gone as well.

The 270 Ruger went on my first safari 10 years ago and I had developed a load using 130 Barnes Xs, on the last practice day it gave me serious pressure signs so I bough a box of 160 Core Lokts. They shot ok so got 3 more for the trip.

I hit the kudu at 260m ( on the shoulder as claimed by the PH) shooting uphill and put another one in his rear going straight up, hit him again at 330m (probably a gut shot) one more at 410m (probably low and far back). Could have shot again but the PH told me he was done for, instead of falling over he walked behind a bush and .... .

Obviously bad shooting on my part but by sound and visual indicators the guide, scout and me all thought he was hit 4 times. We tracked him for three miles until dark and never saw him again.

Was it the fault of the 270 Winchester, the bullets, PH or me? Obviously my fault for not prescribing enough off sticks but there are others factors as well.

Now I shoot my 300 Weatherby on pretty much everything in africa except DG. Using 175gr Barnes XLR at 3250fps I know it’s pretty much always my fault.




I agree with you on the 300 part.. have taken my 300RUM on every trip to African with the exception of the last to Cameroon.. only reason I didn't there was the hassle getting in and out of the country .. that caliber with 180gr Swifts at first.. switched to 200Grs on the last 3 trips.. if they don't drop its probably not the gun, bullet or anything else's fault other than me..

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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: paradox_]
      #329193 - 07/06/19 03:59 AM

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Sooo, everybody is agreed based on the above Kudu shot that the 270 Winchester is definately a girls rifle........
Problem solved




Obviously!


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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: paradox_]
      #329202 - 07/06/19 06:51 AM

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Sooo, everybody is agreed based on the above Kudu shot that the 270 Winchester is definatley a girls rifle........
Problem solved




No. Just means women have confidence in it but not in the over rated 30-06


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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Rule303]
      #329204 - 07/06/19 08:41 AM

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Sooo, everybody is agreed based on the above Kudu shot that the 270 Winchester is definatley a girls rifle........
Problem solved




No. Just means women have confidence in it but not in the over rated 30-06




I like 270 owners...they make me laugh.

https://images.app.goo.gl/zt1NxgQeWw8Ri9ATA




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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Rod4861]
      #329217 - 08/06/19 09:25 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Not sure if this has already been posted here but FYI;
https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/270-w...b7904-182575165

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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Homer]
      #330076 - 13/07/19 10:58 AM

270 Win, 150g Partitions at 3000 fps handloads. Never lost an animal, most die right there, tons of deer, 20 plus elk, 9 black bears. Ranges from 15 yards, to 500 yards. You do your part, it will do it's part.

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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Homer]
      #330094 - 14/07/19 09:12 AM

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G'Day Fella's,

Not sure if this has already been posted here but FYI;
https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/270-w...b7904-182575165

Avagreatweekendeh!
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Good article Hommer. Thanks for posting.


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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Rule303]
      #330098 - 14/07/19 01:20 PM

Yes chuck375, I have seen the exact same results but even out past 500 yards and sometimes way past. I no longer shoot at any game that far, but I did at one time and I used a 270 for almost all of those long shots.
And like you, I never lost one, and in every case but one I never fired 2 shots. The longest range elk kill I ever made was with a 270 and I did shoot 2 times then, but I found when I was gutting the elk the 2nd one was not needed.
I am a gun-buff and I use a lot of different rifles for my hunting because I find the hunt more fun then the kill. To be honest, I have not taken out a 270 in about 9 years now, just because it's become too easy. But with that said I believe it does illustrate the point very well.
270s work and they do the job very well.
Like many other rifles the choice of bullet is important, but if you use a bullet that holds together you need not worry about how well a 270 is going to work for you for most game to most ranges and that does include elk and moose. In fact there is a large bull buffalo in the Jake Corel Museum in Riverton that I saw Jake himself kill. One shot with a 270 Winchester and the bull dropped on the spot with a hit in the neck.

Guns and cartridges seem to take on a religious meaning with many who are a bit foolish. Like any religious fanatic, the devotees of XYZ round are 100% convinced to it's superiority over all others and that makes them the gurus of the ballistic world in their own minds. They KNOW they are right and everyone who disagrees is wrong ---- and there is no give in their mindset. (Like Democrats and socialists)
So just like Dem/Comms they will insult everyone else who would dare to speak another view point, or relay past experiences that may disprove their belief in the supreme power of their "god".

They are actually just fools. Not because of what they like, but because they want to disallow other views or feel that other people failing to warship their "god" is disparaging to them persoanlly

The real truth is tactfully simple.

Bullet holes kill.

Not bullets, not brass powder bottles we call "shells", not B.C. numbers, velocity, scopes, rifling twists, powders, harmonics stock materials, or anything else. Heck, I have some pieces of a bullet in me right now as I write this, It didn't kill me. The hole was not in the right place to do that.

Use ANY cartridge with a bullet that will make a large enough diameter hole, that goes fairly straight once it hits meat, and exits the other side----- and all the science becomes 2nd rate information. Archers kill game all the time with sharp sticks.

Is a 270 a great round? Yes!
It is "greater" than the one you may like?
No.
Is it worse?
Again no!

The round is 2%
The hunter is 98%.

As long as we don't get stupid (which comes from that religious "Democrat-like arrogance" I wrote about above) it doesn't matter much what you shoot, as long as it penetrate well enough to go clear through, and as long as you can shoot it well enough to hit your game where it needs to be hit.


Edited by szihn (14/07/19 01:33 PM)


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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: szihn]
      #330126 - 15/07/19 06:51 AM

The 270 makes calibre selection so easy. My favourites are the 270, 7mm, 375 and 416.

270 win means light recoil, 150 grain bullets at 3000fps lots of quality ammo and components..a 270 or 7mm is perfect smallbore calibre to be matched with a 375 or 416.

People are free to hate my opinions..or even gets offended.... if people want to be offended I guess they be offended, nothing I care about. Bryce M Towsley can hate all he wants..

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Re: Why-I-hate-the- 270 -- by Bryce M. Towsley [Re: Rule303]
      #337164 - 29/01/20 12:28 PM

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Quote:

G'Day Fella's,

Not sure if this has already been posted here but FYI;
https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/270-w...b7904-182575165

Avagreatweekendeh!
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Good article Hommer. Thanks for posting.




Guess that is why the 270W is hated.. it simply doesn't work..

Kidding of course..honestly, I have met Mr Spoomer.. on more than one occasion.. somewhat surprised that he was "surprised" that the heart shot deer did not drop immediately??.. Have seen that a lot..deer, antelope, elk... BUT, they are dead, just don't know it..

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Zombie resurrection - -I-hate-the- .279 [Re: Ripp]
      #337167 - 29/01/20 01:30 PM

Aw geez........this “I hate .270” thread has been thankfully dead for 6 months......drive a stake thru its heart OK?

Towsley ought to be ashamed .....stupid article.

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Re: Zombie resurrection - -I-hate-the- .279 [Re: 3DogMike]
      #337182 - 30/01/20 04:32 AM

Tara has now added a couple deer and an elk to her .270's score.

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Re: Zombie resurrection - -I-hate-the- .279 [Re: DarylS]
      #337183 - 30/01/20 05:43 AM

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Tara has now added a couple deer and an elk to her .270's score.




I have always maintained its a great caliber for women..

KIDDING.. Geez..

I really do believe the article was more so printed to promote discussion not unlike what has happened in this thread.. 16,000 visits???.. Apparently it's a topic many have found interesting, including myself.. Nothing wrong with a 270...just not my personal choice..

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Re: Zombie resurrection - -I-hate-the- .279 [Re: Ripp]
      #337188 - 30/01/20 11:20 AM

I've never owned one, personally. I've had and have 6.5's, 7mm's, .30's, 8mms but nary a .270. For many years, my favourite rifles were .375's & .458's & a .257 Ack.Imp. for yotes. Even shot a moose with the .257 - .270? not interested - maybe Elmer had a negative effect on me with that one?

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Re: Zombie resurrection - -I-hate-the- .279 [Re: DarylS]
      #337190 - 30/01/20 12:17 PM

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I've never owned one, personally. I've had and have 6.5's, 7mm's, .30's, 8mms but nary a .270. For many years, my favourite rifles were .375's & .458's & a .257 Ack.Imp. for yotes. Even shot a moose with the .257 - .270? not interested - maybe Elmer had a negative effect on me with that one?




I believe I still have one.. Rem 700 Stainless I got once on a trade..shot a nice muley with it years ago..using 130 Nosler BT's... was a horrible bullet back then, around 2003.. Only time I have ever used it.. really did keep it for my kids or wife.. no joking..they is virtually no recoil to them..

Not sure what it is, but of all the cartridges I find interest in, the 270W isn't one of them.. but hats off to you if that's your caliber of choice..

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