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I'm not interested in proving anything here, but in my opinion the Blaser system is solid and very well engineered.

I don't own one - the guns are expensive and I'm more inclined to spend my money on obsolete equipment from long ago, but as a modern hunting tool they're in a class on their own.

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I resemble that statement..

I actually do own one--have two barrels, 300Win and 416Rem..
Very well balanced, accurate, quick firing and is a great package to travel with..

IF i were to head to Africa in the not too distant future, pretty sure this is one that would come along for plains game..

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Interesting, Postman, must have been a R93 then.

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I own R93 since 1998 - odd 20 years, it was around from dusty october Zim heat to snowy freezing Alpine tops, mud, pouring rains...never failed me.

IMO R8 was mainly a marketing thing since market was getting floded with R93 - they indeed add the removable magazine/trigger part since with R93 you must empty magazine round by round from the top and it might be anoying...all the rest is - give or take - the same, but the trade continued to blossom.

On exploding Blasers - I don't know, must have been some innovative waaaay out of line stuff (I've heard something about reloads with pistol powders but that is just a hearsay...?). With all the laws here in EU (German even more so)...with a tiny hint of flaw (design, material, production...) then there would be no Blaser anymore.

Here is a vid of rifles with obstruction in the barrel - R93 is at 0:43...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4AqMl1A4aQ

Only thing related I remember back in the early days, was a recall of all the R93's since there was a batch of pins from the trigger mechanism that were accidentaly made of regular instead of stainless steel and installed into some rifles - wasn't mine - since every R93 has a "P" stamped on the factory trigger.

http://www.handgunrepairshop.com/blaser.htm

Amyway - R93 works for me and I don't see any reason to change it for R8, YMMV.

P.S. It is a tool more than a rifle tho

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Thank you all for your interesting replies.

I cannot remember seeing any guides carrying them in Alaska or seeing any pictures of PH's bearing Blasers in Africa.Despite their quick reloading ability,perhaps it is due to their intolerance of dirt?

I would say that in Norway a Blaser is what many aspire to in a Hunting Rifle.

Personally I just cannot see where a mass produced CNC machined Rifle can command such a high price.

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Its the way of the world my friend... I get your point.. Look at Swarovski, Schmidt and Bender, Zeiss, and Leica do it all the time.. Consumers help set the price..public demand apparently allows them to charge the price and get away with it.. otherwise they would have gone broke a long time ago..

I like mine (Blaser)..have no issues with it, have never had any issues with dirt, but I kind of baby my rifles.. its the poor farm boy in me , but dont think it is better than many other rifles I have.. I did build 2 customs in the past couple years and fankly would never trade them for a Blaser..BUT, they may be a slight bit more in cost as well.. and definitly NO issues with dirt..

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Here is mine in custom Cerakote, it’s wearing the factory 16” 308 barrel, Tangent Theta TT525P scope and a Thunderbeast 338 suppressor.

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WOW--the vid with the barrel obstruction is impressive..
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Not really Ripp. That video has been torn to piece more than I care to remember. It was set up to show certain rifles in a bad light. There is nothing to show the obstruction in each barrel, the charge load of each round fired or the calibre. Also the vice seems to be tighter on some barrels than others.

Now if somebody conducted that experiment covering all those criteria and it was done in a reputable laboratory then it would have some relevance.

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Not really Ripp. That video has been torn to piece more than I care to remember. It was set up to show certain rifles in a bad light. There is nothing to show the obstruction in each barrel, the charge load of each round fired or the calibre. Also the vice seems to be tighter on some barrels than others.

Now if somebody conducted that experiment covering all those criteria and it was done in a reputable laboratory then it would have some relevance.

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Re the R93/ I know the Australian Federal Police tested the holding power of the bolt by breaking of one locking petal at a time until down to just 3. These were spaced equal distances apart. Calibre was either 300WM or 338 Lap, do not know which one. It held.

However if it didn't lock up properly look what happened. Yes all of them have very fine tolerances and as I understand it high maintinance to keep them reliable in very dusty conditions.

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Thanks. I finished up its “little brother” a couple of weeks ago. This one is a 10/22 Takedown SBR with a 9” Tactical Solutions barrel in the MagPul Backpacker stock..

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I owned an R 93 a few years ago, thinking like most that it would an indestructible piece of hunting equipment for rough conditions where I didn't want to take any " decent vintage" items.
Mine , a 7X64 backed out primers from day one. Took it to Africa ( along with a vintage WR 500NiTRO), came up on a Wharthog, closed the bolt and it went " click"
I waiting wondering if I had a hang fire, and finally with baited breath opened the action. There was a very slight indentation on the primer .
Took it back to camp, threw it in the tent , and picked up my 100 year rifle.....problem solved.
Rang the agent upon return home. They informed me I didnt have the action closed properly!!!
I do admit there is a very small amount of " feel" as the action locked, however it was closed sufficently to let the firing pin fall, at least some way.
Following week had a phone from A senior manager at Blaser who kindly offered me a full refund....I took it.
It was and is IMHO a piece of shite.
Whatever pocessed me to use anything other that a conventional turnbolt action, I cant say. I can only say that I too was taken in by all the BS that is written about them. Lesson learned.
To be fair the later model may be different , but I never want to find out, but no doubt the R93 had serious issues.

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Re the R93/ I know the Australian Federal Police tested the holding power of the bolt by breaking of one locking petal at a time until down to just 3. These were spaced equal distances apart. Calibre was either 300WM or 338 Lap, do not know which one. It held.

However if it didn't lock up properly look what happened. Yes all of them have very fine tolerances and as I understand it high maintinance to keep them reliable in very dusty conditions.

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Rule303, I have actually seen this bolt head.
It used to sit on Chis B's office desk (X-Tec/Blaser agents, at the time), as a talking piece.
Typical mind set, and lack of understanding of engineering principles, by the AFP.
If you want a good laugh, I could tell you about how they tested the Glock pistols ...............

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I dare say that a modern M98 and a Blaser R8 are both manufactured using similar CNC machines, modern metals and construction methods. No doubt both are marketed to the same high standard. They are also both marketed at and sell for quiet substantial amounts. Are they worth that money? Well I think so!

Which is better? Well that's a personal choice...me I love both. I have hunted with a R8 a bit within the last 5 years. I love it! It's reliable and functional. I also own a couple of new Rigby's but to date I've not hunted with neither. I have hunted a substancial amount with older manufactured 98's and similar like the Brno 602's The hunts of done of late were better suited for the Blaser.

As to the comment about not seeing Alaskan guides carrying them...well I'm not surprised that they don't. All the Alaskan guides that I have met and or hunted with carry good old USA manufactured stuff. Marlin, Winchester, Remington, Dakota and of course the exception to the rule is the good on CZ550. They also have a preference for Leupold scopes... I dare say that if Blaser were made in the USA and were as cheap as US manufactured arms then it would be a different story. I haven't seen too many guides carrying Sako's or Sauers either.

Blaser's make a great product. I don't know if Blaser will still be manufacturing R8's in 100 years from now...it will probably be hard to equal the longevity of the Mauser 98. But I reckon Blasers are soo good that we'll be buying and using them well past my life time.

If you don't like Blasers..buy something you do like. Life is too short to waste talking about things you don't like or appreciate !

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The reason no one sees African PHs using Blasers is one, they cost too much, and two, they are unreliable crap ... why would ANYONE who is a serious PH carry a Blaser, when a PH could carry a reliable and trustworthy Mauser 98. CZ etc? Even the Blaser double rifles are crap and unreliable. One of our members purchased one, yes they are cheaper, he sold it before the year was out.

The R93's are well known for being dangerous. A member of years gone by had the earlier model of Blaser than the R93. He wanted to sell it. I was interested in buying it, but the price at the time was too high for me. An extremely light firearm, in 7 mm Rem Mag and .375 H&H, about 6 1/4 lbs including ammo and scope in .375. It was not pleasant to shoot.

Anyway he said the common name in German for the Blaser was "Rausch-Bomb" (or something like that).

The R8 was redisgned supposedly to remove the denied alleged problem fo the Blaser R93's bolt of blowing back into people's faces ...

However its design is also crap. A magazine of 2 rounds for at least some chamberings. Also who on Earth designs a rifle where the trigger is part of the removable magazine??? Utter crap design ...

Having said all that, I would consider having the R8 in an hot magnum cartridge chambering suitable for plains or mountain hunting, and in a light version of the rifle. The shorter length and lightweight would be handy for mountain shooting. And a inadequate magazine of two rounds only, is still one more than a single shot. And not too much of a hinderance for mountain trophy hunting.

As for the R93, seems OK, but how can one have confidence shooting it, not knowing if you are going to have an explosion in your face, even if rare. As the alleged problems IMO are very real.

I don't own any Blasers. I would consider a single shot Blaser, which are reputed to be accurate.

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Now I do not own a Blaser and think those who do are ghay I do know a few ghay blokes and am assured from an engineering point the safety on the R8 is the best and most fool proof in the world. To answer the OP I would say the R8 are more engineering than marketing.

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Now I do not own a Blaser and think those who do are ghay I do know a few ghay blokes and am assured from an engineering point the safety on the R8 is the best and most fool proof in the world. To answer the OP I would say the R8 are more engineering than marketing.

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I'm at a loose to see how the removable magazine/trigger housing is a disadvantage. Do you have any examples of instances where that has been a problem? I haven't heard of any and tend to look at that feature as a positive.

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No firsthand experience but I have heard from people loosing their R8 magazine while on a hunt. So you might keep an eye on this.
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Well from my experiences the magazines don't fall out.

And I guess I'm a belt, braces and elastic type of bloke. I like the idea of having a spare magazine just in case. When I carried Sako 75 or 85's I always had a spare magazine ( & they are not cheap)and never lost one of those either.

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If you don't like Blasers..buy something you do like. Life is too short to waste talking about things you don't like or appreciate !

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If the people who don't like them aren't alklowed to talk about them, who would be left?

I would very much LIKE to like the R93. I did consider one at one point. But the marketing to down play the safety issues doesn't remove the actual problem.

When I hunted with ErikD in Norway, he used to have a R93, but got rid of it and instead bought a Mauser M03. Which I used. Got to like it. So ended buying one myself, in the Synthetic Extreme configuration., Later added a second Mauser M03 with a Germanic Schnabel style stock. Four barrels so far, two actions and stock, several bolt heads and magazines. The only complaint so far is a weak magazine spring in the .222 magazine, so it is used as a single shot. Myalls promised me a free replacement magazine years ago. Still have to act on it.

The Mauser M03 is a real bolt action rifle.

Interesting since then ErikD has sold off his Mauser M03 and bought a Blaser R8.

I would consider a R8, EXCEPT I really hate the limited magazine and even more hate the removable trigger/magazine BS engineering to overcome an obstacle of extremely poor design.

The Blaser does usually have a much lighter weight. And does pack in a smaller shoebox when travelling than the Mauser M03.

One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned, is what one Baron in Germany claims is essential for driven game shooting and that is speed of reloading. Presumably semi autos and maybe pump actions are banned (?). He claims a double rifle is inadequate having only two shots, and a normal turn bolt action way too slow for quick reloading when shooting driven running game. Now a Blaser with its two or three shot inadequate magazine doesn't seem an improvement. I think he shoots some other over engineered weird straight pull German rifle creation. Designed for shooting from hochsitz's.

Why is a magazine/trigger a prlem?

First it is so obvious. Who on Earth designs a combined magazine trigger which has to be removed to be reloaded? A crazy person ...

Secondly, as said, something else to go wrong, and forgotten. Especially where it is required to have the magazine removed from a rifle during travel or other times. Not a huge problem to loose a removable magazine, a useless firearm without a trigger ...

I would buy a R8. But probably would have a dozen or two other choices or priority rifle choices in front of it .... And for a nice takedown, given unlimited funds, a nice set of Mauser 98 or 98 styled actions and barrels in takedown form would be 1000% better. Some makers do make them.

Maybe the next Blaser model could be designed by actual hunters and riflemen!

Added: I think Staffan/Sville had a Blaser, I forget which model, probably R93 and I MAY have carried it for an afternoon. Never shot it. Mostly he loaned to me a 9.3mm double rifle he has.

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If the people who don't like them aren't alklowed to talk about them, who would be left?

I would very much LIKE to like the R93. I did consider one at one point. But the marketing to down play the safety issues doesn't remove the actual problem.

When I hunted with ErikD in Norway, he used to have a R93, but got rid of it and instead bought a Mauser M03. Which I used. Got to like it. So ended buying one myself, in the Synthetic Extreme configuration., Later added a second Mauser M03 with a Germanic Schnabel style stock. Four barrels so far, two actions and stock, several bolt heads and magazines. The only complaint so far is a weak magazine spring in the .222 magazine, so it is used as a single shot. Myalls promised me a free replacement magazine years ago. Still have to act on it.

The Mauser M03 is a real bolt action rifle.

Interesting since then ErikD has sold off his Mauser M03 and bought a Blaser R8.

I would consider a R8, EXCEPT I really hate the limited magazine and even more hate the removable trigger/magazine BS engineering to overcome an obstacle of extremely poor design.

The Blaser does usually have a much lighter weight. And does pack in a smaller shoebox when travelling than the Mauser M03.

One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned, is what one Baron in Germany claims is essential for driven game shooting and that is speed of reloading. Presumably semi autos and maybe pump actions are banned (?). He claims a double rifle is inadequate having only two shots, and a normal turn bolt action way too slow for quick reloading when shooting driven running game. Now a Blaser with its two or three shot inadequate magazine doesn't seem an improvement. I think he shoots some other over engineered weird straight pull German rifle creation. Designed for shooting from hochsitz's.

Why is a magazine/trigger a prlem?

First it is so obvious. Who on Earth designs a combined magazine trigger which has to be removed to be reloaded? A crazy person ...

Secondly, as said, something else to go wrong, and forgotten. Especially where it is required to have the magazine removed from a rifle during travel or other times. Not a huge problem to loose a removable magazine, a useless firearm without a trigger ...

I would buy a R8. But probably would have a dozen or two other choices or priority rifle choices in front of it .... And for a nice takedown, given unlimited funds, a nice set of Mauser 98 or 98 styled actions and barrels in takedown form would be 1000% better. Some makers do make them.

Maybe the next Blaser model could be designed by actual hunters and riflemen!

Added: I think Staffan/Sville had a Blaser, I forget which model, probably R93 and I MAY have carried it for an afternoon. Never shot it. Mostly he loaned to me a 9.3mm double rifle he has.

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Its fine for people to have and express their opinion but it would help if those doing so were speaking from first hand experience. Most of the negative comments regarding the R8 start with "I've got a mate who heard.........."

The magazines/trigger housing does not have to be removed when traveling and or for storage in Queensland. And I know for a fact that it is not a requirement for overseas travel to the USA and NZ from Australia. I seriously doubt if it is required in any Australian State...but who knows perhaps in WA. WA is a weird and special case.

You keep mentioning a magazine capacity of 2 or 3 rounds ? The R8 has a magazine capacity of 4 for cartridges like te 30/06 & the 9,3x62. Yes it is only three when using belted magnum cartridges like the 300 Win Mag. Which means the R8 magazine capacity is pretty much on par with Remington model 700's, Winchester 70's, and many other popular rifles with fixed magazines. For some instances, primarily culling or when hunting some dangerous game then yes, a big magazine can be an advantage.

I should also point out that the R8 magazine does not have to be removed to load. It can be loaded either fitted or detached.

The R8 is a great rifle but it is not perfect for every hunting situation. I'm sure I could find a better outfit for culling large numbers of animals, and whilst I have no experience with driven game (as known in Europe) I'm sure there may be a better choices than an R8. But I reckon if all I had for such circumstances was an R8 then I wouldn't feel naked.

My R8 is my goto rifle for most hunts these days. I have hunted pigs, Brown bear, Dall sheep and other stuff with it and it does very well. In saying that I also have a Sako Finlight which is my NZ rifle and I've got 2 Rigby's which will get to Africa within the next few years. And I almost forgot got an FN model 98 in 9.3x62 which has killed it's fair share of game. Damn thing has a double set trigger so I guess it was designed to shooting from hochsitz's too. Still love it; horses for courses so they say.

Anyway, if you want to bag the R8, or Blasers in general, for the sake/entertainment of bagging them then fine. I get that! I enjoy rubbishing ghay boys and their ghay useless 270 Winchesters too.

Oh and I forget to mention those poor dumb bastards (but not ghay unless chambered in 270) who shoot Mauser 03's

Have a good night.

Cheers

Rod

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Crazy idea I know..but an actual review from someone who has both..and in the gay .270 caliber..

https://www.gunmart.net/gun-reviews/firInterestearms/rifles/blaser-r8-v-mauser-m03

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I suggest you do some research before travelling and maybe putting your beliefs to the test.

And in any case, a magazine is removed. Can be removed. Is removed. If it has a trigger connected on it, can be lost. And is lost.

"Ghay". That was a joke by the poster.

Now back again to th opening question. Is it marketing or engineering? Obviously both. Modern over engineered. And huge amounts of marketing to sell them. Buying several other makers and brands, many much better, to add to the stable.

Now I did have a joke, about how God would have designed the human body if he was a Blaser engineer, but I will reserve that one.

Now I like over one hundred year old designed rifle. And my ideal ideal take down would be a Mauser 98 with the locking lug collar on the removable barrel, not the action. But cost is a factor to actually buy.

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Rod the Blaser users who use a 270 are almost Un-Ghay. Damn fine calibre that one

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Bloke does know what he is talking about as he uses that truly magnificent calibre, 270 and knows his off road machines as well.

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Rod the Blaser users who use a 270 are almost Un-Ghay. Damn fine calibre that one

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Now someone doesn't have to buy something they feel is not worth buying, to make a comment on it. And yes, one does not have to buy one, to handle one, try one, and also listen to knowledgeable persons. Owners who have had one and got rid of it. Or sometimes even like them.

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I suggest you do some research before travelling and maybe putting your beliefs to the test.

And in any case, a magazine is removed. Can be removed. Is removed. If it has a trigger connected on it, can be lost. And is lost.

"Ghay". That was a joke by the poster.

Now back again to th opening question. Is it marketing or engineering? Obviously both. Modern over engineered. And huge amounts of marketing to sell them. Buying several other makers and brands, many much better, to add to the stable.

Now I did have a joke, about how God would have designed the human body if he was a Blaser engineer, but I will reserve that one.

Now I like over one hundred year old designed rifle. And my ideal ideal take down would be a Mauser 98 with the locking lug collar on the removable barrel, not the action. But cost is a factor to actually buy.

Now if you can't handle other peoples opinions, get over it.

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There is nothing wrong with people having and expressing opinions, even those that differ from mine. And I’d suggest that there is also nothing wrong with correcting inaccuracies in comments. Some may even consider that “quaint” but I doubt that many would consider it “bullying”.

In relation to your comment that magazines must be removed for travel. That comment is incorrect.

Finally, Rule 303 and I are mates. We take the piss out of each other all the time. Perhaps we need a stirring icon to avoid confusion by those not in the know. Considering he shoots a 270, owns a Land Rover, drinks cheap nasty piss and can't keep a secret concerning arseless chaffs; I'm surprised I even speak to him (stirring icon needed)

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-- the last I checked, parts if needed, were still available..so no need to be disposed of, just repaired as do some of the 2-3 lifetime guns need...

Reading all the posts, IMHO, people are looking for flies where there aren't any...but, hey, feel free to comment and enjoy reading this post. Been quite entertaining actually..

I used a R8 while hunting in Spain..performed perfectly..no issues of any kind..no lost magazines, triggers, slings, stocks, bolts, etc... harvested numerous types of game throughout the country.. zero problems... come back home and bought the exact same model for myself.. I will say you do see quite a few while out there will doing mountain hunts..have not seen many or any for that matter in Africa on my travels..have seen them in Alaska..and in the "stan" countries often.. easy to travel with and the easy of caliber change.. met one guy in Alaska..told me he had something like 17 different barrels for his..had traveled the world hunting with it..again, no issues...

Oddly, the only 2 rifles I have actually ever had to take to a gunsmith for repair, as in they were not functioning correctly, were both built on mauser actions.. so....there you have it..none are infallible. At least in my experience..

BTW, Greg, my wife likes her .270...

Ripp

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https://www.americanrifleman.org/article...m_campaign=0219

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https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/01/tyler-kee/new-2017-strasser-rs-14/

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/10/foghorn/gun-review-strasser-rs-14/

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/12/jeremy-s/gun-review-strasser-rs14-evolution-rifle/

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Thanks for posting these--stellar reviews...

In todays world the suggested retail of $2600 which means will actually probably be around 22-$2300..reasonable price for what it offers...

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The only rifle I've ever taken to a gunsmith for repair or suggestions, is a Browning A3. The bolt keeps falling out. Go figure. Never had that happen to one of my Mausers.

My Remington M700 needs careful attention when replacing the bolt after cleaning, as the bolt retention button sticks in the 'release' position.

Never had that happen to one of my Mausers.

I've only been using 98 Mausers since 1968- maybe one day, I'll have trouble with one. Guess I've been 'extra' lucky.

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If I ever bought one it would have to have the Steel action ,the other point was that someone ''above'' saying it would not accept reloads, only factory ammo ???

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Ripp, I would say she has excellent tastes except she married you


Rod, I have read about rifles that won't except reloads. It must be true, it was on the internet

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Yeah...a friend of my cousin reckons his friends uncle heard it's only a problem with the 270 Winchester cartridge.

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Do people roll on the floor pissing themselves laughing, when their mate says he just bought a Blaser, and is going to take it to Africa to shoot the Big Five ? bahahahahahahah

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I just love shooting the 416.

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That's pretty cool..certainly seems to show the quickness of the Blaser

And Yes, I too like shooting the .416

Its like a .270, only for men...

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No problem, we all have had momentary lapses in judgment from time to time..

A lot of other women my wife knows also shoot .270's..

Think its the perfect caliber for women, children, adult males of smaller stature, weak and frail frames, etc...



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Years ago the .270, courtesy of Jack O’Connor, got some respect..........now: “The Mazda Miata of rifle cartridges”?
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A lot of other women my wife knows also shoot .270's..

Think its the perfect caliber for women, children, adult males of smaller stature, weak and frail frames, etc...

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Think its the perfect caliber for women, children, adult males of smaller stature, weak and frail frames, etc...

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Agree with 9.3x57, this thread is out of hand, but in a funny kind of way..nothing wrong with a little humor...

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Not being, by nature, neither a woman nor, alas for me, a child, I'm certainly some kind of adult male of smaller stature, weak and frail frames….because if unfortunately I had to keep only one rifle it would be one of my beloved .270W !

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JUST so you know, that comment was made in jest for the benefit of Rule303...

In all seriousness, I personally don't care for the .270, but many do, which is perfectly fine.. I have no problem with those who care to shoot an inferior caliber/cartridge..

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Today I went to the range with a double case with my Blaser R93. Now its old school. I had one barrel in 30-06 and one barrel in 9.3x62. Waidmannsheil was the RO and we discussed this thread. So I thought I'd post.

Somehow I managed not to lose an eye and shot okay.

https://youtu.be/A8cetNPyuTE

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Good shooting and fun to watch...

Question..Who is this Will guy and why do they keep shooting at him??

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Today I went to the range with a double case with my Blaser R93. Now its old school. I had one barrel in 30-06 and one barrel in 9.3x62. Waidmannsheil was the RO and we discussed this thread. So I thought I'd post.

Somehow I managed not to lose an eye and shot okay.

https://youtu.be/A8cetNPyuTE

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Well picked up. For some reason I had very bad extraction and for about the first time it never picked up the round on the way through. So the click was because a round wasn't chambered rather than not closing the bolt. This was because of me not paying attention because of my frustration with ejection. I've given a very good scrub with borepaste to remove any carbon build up and hopefully extraction won't be difficult. I've got a batch of a hundred rounds and use that in both my 30-06 and in the single shot the primers aren't flat at all but this weekend they were very flat in the R93.

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I guess you can have one poop day, but end result is steel on target so I can't complain too much.

Not ready to transition to a R8 just yet as I've got the eye on a F16 shotgun or BD14 bockdrilling.

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Ha ha. But an eye patch looks very cool and piratety ... if one's dominant shooting eye however it is a major pain.

Actually I had an eye patch for a couple weeks or so once. IT IS A MAJOR PAIN. As one looses all depth judgement. If walking a person has to estimate how far away a chair is, otherwise it is easy to walk into things. If driving one estimates how many car lengths the vehicle in front is, or the tunr is. It is no longer automatic. Binocular vision is essential for depth anmd distance estimation. I guess with time one gets used to be a one eyed Blazer shooter ...

The loosing eye stuff I reported came from an Austrian friend and member in the past. He used to say it was common for the Blaser to be called the ":rausch-bombe" (or some such spelling) in Gemrnay and Austria and on German language forums and websites.

Marketing kept the R93 out of the blown up face Top Ten lists.

The R08 was undoubtably designed to overcome the R93 reputation and hopefully also the dangerous design flaws.

Have to look at your videos. No doubt they will be entertaining.

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