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lancaster
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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: szihn]
      #275928 - 01/01/16 06:27 PM

what a turmoil




well, its all about being able to calculate and knowledge is power. if having a rare and for this reason valuable military rifle I sell it for making maximum profit to the one who is paying the most.

for this I need knowledge before to calculate the value of the piece. used guns are a special branch of the antiques market but in the end its the same like new guns. a rifle coming from the house of a best gun maker for maybe 15000$ is only worth this because people are willing to pay this price.

I dont wish to change my own mosin rifle against anything of this because I HAVE work on this for years of my lifetime and nobody can pay me for this!

some rare mosin going today for more then 1000$ and it doesn't matter they are made in millions before or not. it will be wise to look what you have.
so if looking for a maximum profit before I get parts as cheap as possible for a project. for my Vergueiro sporter I bought a mismatched deaktivated rifle for 50 euro that nobody else want in an auction. dont need the drilled and welded barrel only want the action where all parts are polished by my hands than so dont care about the rest: mismatched, worn or rusty.
no licence fee for a rifle I buy to destroy it and than licence fee again for the new rifle when its build.

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: szihn]
      #276031 - 03/01/16 07:54 PM

Quote:

To reply to
"As for 9.3x57 & szihn's comments...would you think about doing the same modifications to a pre-WW1 DWM Mauser?"

The answer is YES \If the rifle was in such poor condition that it had lost 90-95 percent of any collectors value before I ever got hold of it.
the Mosin in my post was in very poor condition. If it had been a US Westinghouse or a SIG, I would still have done the same work to it because I made a nice usable rifle that may last a another 100 years from one that was on its way to the trash bin.
I wish I had before an after pics, but I think even the most die-hard collector would agree I did it good if they could have seen what I started with.




I did the same. My .50 Alaskan was built off of a junk 1928 Tula ex-dragoon rifle that had a barrel like a sewer pipe, completely pitted. It came from a container of rifles that had come out of Romania, originally sent to Gheorghiu-Dej after WWII to be re-arsenaled & put in service, but abandoned and put in storage when they received the tooling to build the M44. I paid $100 USD for 3 rifles ($33/ea), each missing small items like handguards, barrel bands, or sight hoods. If it was in the shape of the author's rifle, I never would have considered it.


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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: FinnCollector]
      #284937 - 07/07/16 08:02 PM

love thos old pics from africa

rifles captured by italian troops during the Second Italo-Ethiopian War - Mosin rifles






probably sold by surplusdealer after the great war to ethiopa

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #289613 - 30/10/16 07:00 PM

more Mannlicher Schönauer look alike Mosin rifles from hungary

https://vadaszapro.net/reszletek/263824/feg-gv-762x54r







and https://vadaszapro.net/reszletek/266648/feg-762x54r







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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #293837 - 15/01/17 06:47 AM

My ColorCase 45-70 Mosin Receiver
Whole Receiver

(Disclaimer: I'm new to forums so let me know if something doesn't work )


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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: ricksrifles2843]
      #293853 - 15/01/17 10:19 AM

So, you changed from round receiver to hex? Is this one a Ishevsk?

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: FinnCollector]
      #293886 - 16/01/17 03:07 AM

looking fine
I had the feeling the mosin steel is a little bit different than maybe the steel you have with a mauser 98. was seeing it react different on rust blueing than mauser parts.

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: lancaster]
      #299960 - 03/05/17 06:05 AM

Quote:

more Mannlicher Schönauer look alike Mosin rifles from hungary

https://vadaszapro.net/reszletek/263824/feg-gv-762x54r










I really like that look!

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Grenadier]
      #299964 - 03/05/17 08:23 AM

Info is in the Big Bore Rifles section and that is where I will be posting load and performance data but I should have posted pictures
of this rifle here, too.


Rebarrelled to .405 Grenadier, a .411 wildcat based on the 7.62x54R case. The cartridges are loaded with, clockwise from left:
400gr Woodleigh, 350gr Swift A-Frame, 300gr Barnes TSX, a 7.62x54R cartridge for comparrison, and 350gr Hawk.






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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Grenadier]
      #299984 - 03/05/17 04:02 PM

What's the muzzle velocity with the 300gr Barnes?

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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: FinnCollector]
      #300000 - 03/05/17 10:43 PM

These are some preliminary loads:

.405 Grenadier, Mosin Nagant, McGowen 25" barrel
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Hornady 300gr SP, 54.7gr AR-Comp, 2.67" COAL -- 2,201 fps / 3228 ft lb
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Barnes 300gr TSX, 53.1gr AR-Comp, 2.9" COAL -- 2,131 fps / 3026 ft lbs
Barnes 300gr TSX, 54.7gr AR-Comp, 2.9" COAL -- 2,202 fps / 3231 ft lbs
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Hawk 350gr RN, 51.8gr AR-Comp, 2.9" COAL -- 1,966 fps / 3004 ft lbs
Hawk 350gr RN, 53.8gr AR-Comp, 2.9" COAL -- 2,044 fps / 3247 ft lbs
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Woodleigh 400gr RN, 46.5gr AR-Comp, 2.8" COAL -- 1,805 fps / 2894 ft lbs
Woodleigh 400gr RN, 47.8gr AR-Comp, 2.8" COAL -- 1,868 fps / 3100 ft lbs
Woodleigh 400gr RN, 49.2gr AR-Comp, 2.8" COAL -- 1,938 fps / 3336 ft lbs
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Re: The best Mosin sporting rifle project in world history [Re: Grenadier]
      #300020 - 04/05/17 03:11 AM

Very similar to .405 Winchester or .444 Marlin then. That's enough!

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