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Bell carried a Mauser C96 in 9mm Export caliber.

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This is the Mauser broomhandle pistol? Probably with the wooden holster/butt stock?

Mentioned in a book when he had aggressive Karamojan warriors killing around in camp, where he shot "7" zebras running past with the Mauser pistol as a demonstration of his capabilities.

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Martin and Osa Johnson spent four years at "Lake Paradise" in Northern Kenya on the Eithiopian (then Absynnia) border. This was their second sojourn to the Lake to take photos and film of the wildlife.

They armed themselves with the following 'arsenal':

3 English Blands - .470 NE - double barrel
1 English Bland - .275 - Mannlicher action
1 American Springfield - .303 - Mauser action
1 English Rigby - .505 - Mauser action
3 American Winchesters - .405 - lever action
1 American Winchester - .32 - lever action
2 English Jeffrey's - .404 - Mauser action
1 American Winchester shotgun - 12g - repeating
1 American Parker - 12g - double barrel
1 American Ithaca - 20g - double barrel
1 American Ithaca - 20g - sawed off shotgun, called riot gun
1 .38 Colt revolver
1 .45 Colt revolver

Reference: "I Married Adventure" by Osa Johnson, 1940

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A couple of revolvers.

A .32 lever action. And the 3x .405 lever action.

I think in the early days when aggressive natives, cannibals, headhunters, might be encountered a revolver and a large tube magazine lever action in the same cartridge would have been the close quarters "assault rifle" of the day. Before semi autos and autos were available.

A .44, .45, or .38 revolver and lever action, very useful.

I've never seen a reference to similar in African writings. Any one seen anything?

The repeating , pump action?, shotgun loaded with buckshot would be a useful deterent, as well as for hunting.



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As to the arms I cannot do better than put down a
list of those which we finally decided on from among the ample store
that Sir Henry had brought with him from England, and those which I
owned. I copy it from my pocket-book, where I made the entry at the
time.

"Three heavy breech-loading double-eight elephant guns, weighing about
fifteen pounds each, to carry a charge of eleven drachms of black
powder." Two of these were by a well-known London firm, most excellent
makers, but I do not know by whom mine, which is not so highly
finished, was made. I have used it on several trips, and shot a good
many elephants with it, and it has always proved a most superior
weapon, thoroughly to be relied on.

"Three double-500 Expresses, constructed to stand a charge of six
drachms," sweet weapons, and admirable for medium-sized game, such as
eland or sable antelope, or for men, especially in an open country and
with the semi-hollow bullet.

"One double No. 12 central-fire Keeper's shot-gun, full choke both
barrels." This gun proved of the greatest service to us afterwards in
shooting game for the pot.

"Three Winchester repeating rifles (not carbines), spare guns.

"Three single-action Colt's revolvers, with the heavier, or American
pattern of cartridge."

This was our total armament, and doubtless the reader will observe that
the weapons of each class were of the same make and calibre, so that
the cartridges were interchangeable, a very important point. I make no
apology for detailing it at length, as every experienced hunter will
know how vital a proper supply of guns and ammunition is to the success
of an expedition.

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Was Jamieson's .25/20 a lever action? Any more information?

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This is the Mauser broomhandle pistol? Probably with the wooden holster/butt stock?

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Yes, correct. The shoulder stocked job. The 9mm Export was a long-case 9mm round. A darn good general purpose round, really, and in a compact, stowable C96, really a great tool for the job Bell intended. Small game and self defense.

Wiki has a good writeup:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9725mm_Mauser

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Even larger with longer tines on some of the "feeding" ranches in the American West.

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did I understand you right that they "produce" whitetail deers with large trophys on wildlife farms with the help of some anabolic drugs and similar stuff like they do in hungary with red deer for selling them to stupid trophy hunter in a fake "hunt"?

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This weapon was quite popular in finnish lappland before WWII. It´s very light to carry and so it was quite popular among local bear hunters when they shot bears from nest at winter time.

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In the Export caliber also? Or 9x19?

I had a stocked Browning High Power for a time and it was, as you say, quite handy.

I have a hunch a modern "C96"-type w/ stock (basically, a centerfire AR7) would sell well for all the reasons the C96 appealed to Bell and the Sami's. In 9x19 and 10mm, what a handy woods gun, storable in the stock like the AR7. I'd buy one at least!

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did I understand you right that they "produce" whitetail deers with large trophys on wildlife farms with the help of some anabolic drugs and similar stuff like they do in hungary with red deer for selling them to stupid trophy hunter in a fake "hunt"?

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Yes. Some high fence and other operations establish feeding programs designed to maximize antler development.

The hunts are not all necessarily "fake" (tho many are basically baited, high seat setups, quite cozy...) but the animals are not as they would be in truly wild country.

It's illegal to bait in Idaho and I know of no high fence operations here. Not sure if it is even legal. Some guys certainly feed I imagine, but the game is nevertheless wild. In other states, different laws apply.

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they did such things in hungary, bulgaria and other places. red deer coming from special farms were they are feeded by a scientific diet plan together with drugs that would help to make big antler.
the hard paying hunting guest is located on a high seat and the deer would be shoo in his direction.
sometimes the deer is under the influence of drugs.

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