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jgrabow
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Re: The Rare Pleasure Of Obscure Cartridges [Re: rigbymauser]
      #360780 - 20/01/22 09:18 PM

My semi obscure calibers are:

6.5 x 57 Mauser
6.5 x 68 RWS
8 x 68s RWS
350 Rigby
40 Newton
10.75 x 68 Mauser
11.2 x 72 Schüler
577 bpe 2.75"

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Re: The Rare Pleasure Of Obscure Cartridges [Re: jgrabow]
      #368262 - 11/08/22 01:09 PM

One of the biggest pleasures are that really finely crafted rifles were made in really obscure calibers and passed over because of concerns over finding/making ammo

8x75RS

9x63R Hunting Mauser

10.75x65R Gruendig

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Re: The Rare Pleasure Of Obscure Cartridges [Re: rigbymauser]
      #368266 - 11/08/22 08:11 PM

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I think its very difficult in this forum to mention anything obscure caliber. Its just standard in here.



The common and modern wannabe creations are simply so boring.

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Re: The Rare Pleasure Of Obscure Cartridges [Re: NitroX]
      #368267 - 11/08/22 10:30 PM

Put me in the column that prefers obscure cartridges! Just a few:

9.3 X 57R, old BP case on the 9.3 X 72R
8.7 X 55R
9 X 71 Peterlongo
10.5 X 47R
9 X 57 Mauser
40-82 WCF
40-70SS
45-2.6
45-90
8 X 56 M/S
11.15 X 60R
8 X 65R Brenneke
8 X 60R Magnum

And some not quite so obcsure:

9.3 X 57 Mauser
8.15 X 46R
7 X 64 Brenneke
8 X 57

And others.

I have some RCC brass and while it looks nice, I cannot recommend it. The brass I have came with my Meffert O/U double rifle in 8 X 60 Magnum. The brass had not been fired and a few cases were loaded. I don't trust many folks reloads and especially none that came through the mail so I pulled the bullets to check what the powder might be. It was supposed to be IMR-4895 and looked like it but, I used it for fertilizer anyway. The cases looked as if the volume was quite a bit less than what it should be. I compared the water weight volume to an 8 X 57 case and it was quite a bit LESS!!!! One couldn't get 8 X 57 starting powder charges in the case. I don't know what that was going to do with pressures but it seemed to me all they could do is increase. So, I ordered some 7 X 65R, RWS cases from Huntingtons and formed 8 X 60R cases from them and started load development. The RCC cases are on the shelf.

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Re: The Rare Pleasure Of Obscure Cartridges [Re: sharps4590]
      #368269 - 12/08/22 02:25 AM

To Sharps 45-90,
You do have a long list of obscure cartridges and I had to read them all to find 45-90.
That turned out to be the only cartridge we have in common as I shoot 45-90 in my Miroku 1886 and in my Beretta DR, which turned out well.

I do not know where you shoot or hunt your .45-90 but my 1886 45-90 has taken some African DG including ele, buff, leopard and also plains game. It is VERY effective with 450 grain NF bullets at 2150 fps.


The only African game the my double has taken was a Blackbuck, in late spring before it got really hot here in Texas. I plan to take some larger game this coming fall and winter.

I share you distrust of other folks load data, especially since most of them do not use the powder that I do.

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Re: The Rare Pleasure Of Obscure Cartridges [Re: crshelton]
      #368270 - 12/08/22 03:26 AM

cr, I saw you had used your 45-90 in Africa and thought that was a fine recommendation for the cartridge!!

My 45-90 is in a Shiloh Sharps, Montana Roughrider. For 12 years I used the rifle to the exclusion of all others and never had to shoot anything twice and, only twice did the animal not fall where it stood. One was a forky, mulie that simply turned around and fell. The other was about a 220 lb. boar I hit well at a full run at about 40 yards. He slid about 20 ft. on his snout but never moved when he came to a stop. Everything else crumpled where it stood, from elk down.

My load has always been a 480 gr., NEI bullet cast of 25-1 over 80 grs. of GOEX Cartridge....which I am about out of!!! Hopefully the few cans of Old Eynsford I have will perform as well. Over my chronograph it runs 1200 fps, a little more or less, barely. SD and extreme spread are in single digits.

I recently acquired a German, muzzleloading, percussion double rifle in 56 caliber. To my delight it regulated quite easily, only had to try two loads and it came on at 65 yards, shooting a 2-3 inch, composite group with open sights and 69 year old eyes!!. If I don't have a much needed back surgery before fall, I hope to blood it.

Last year I took my deer with the 9 X 71 Peterlongo and a cast bullet load, about like a 35 Remington. The deer flailed about 15 yards.

Oh, I had an E.M. Reilly in 500 BPE for about 20 years. Fun rifle and cartridge though I never killed anything with it. Sold it and bought the Vierordt double in 8 X 65R.

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Edited by sharps4590 (12/08/22 03:30 AM)

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Re: The Rare Pleasure Of Obscure Cartridges [Re: sharps4590]
      #368294 - 13/08/22 08:43 PM

by your definition of european caliber being obscure most of my rifle cartridges are exactly this

6,5x53R
6,5x57
7x57R
8x50R Lebel
8x57IS
8x58RD
9x57
9,3x53R
9,3x57
9,3x64
375NE 2,25"
401 WSL
10,75x57
10,75x68
11,2x60 Schüler

BP needle fire cartridges

9,5 mm Dreyse
11mm Chassepot
11mm Dreyse
12,3 mm Dreyse
16,5 mm Dreyse

center fire
28/46 rifle cartridge

and not forget 9 mm Flobert rimfire and 4 ga pinfire and beside of the common shotgun caliber a 24 ga

I think only the 7,62x39 and the 22 lr are not obscure

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Re: The Rare Pleasure Of Obscure Cartridges [Re: lancaster]
      #368309 - 14/08/22 04:22 AM

I have the pleasure of owning and shooting rifles and pistols in the following slightly obscure caliber. Some of the rifles and pistols I have passed on to other custodians.

22 Jet
22 Super Jet
5.2x52R
250/3000
25/20SS Stevens
25/20 Repeater (25 WCF)
25/25 Stevens
28/30 Stevens
6.5x52R
6.5x54 MS
256 Newton
270 Ren
7 Merrill
7x64
7x65R
280 Ross
295 Rook (300 Rook)
30 Merrill
30 Newton
300 H&H Rim
30/40
310 Cadet
8x72R
8x57R/360
8x57RJ
8x58.5R Sauer
8.15x46.5R
32 WCF
33 WCF
357 Automag
35 Remington
360BPE
9.3x72R
9.3x82R
9.3 JDJ
9.3x74
9.5x56 MS
450/400 BPE
10.5X47R
10.5x65 Collath
11.15x60R
44 WCF
44 Automag
450 3 1/4" BPE
500/450 WR #1
500/450 WR #2
50/90 Sharps
500 3" BPE
577/500 Mag BPE
577 Sinder

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