jgrabow
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Loc: Winter Wisconsin
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My semi obscure calibers are:
6.5 x 57 Mauser 6.5 x 68 RWS 8 x 68s RWS 350 Rigby 40 Newton 10.75 x 68 Mauser 11.2 x 72 Schüler 577 bpe 2.75"
-------------------- Jim
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Gankai
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Loc: PST
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One of the biggest pleasures are that really finely crafted rifles were made in really obscure calibers and passed over because of concerns over finding/making ammo
8x75RS
9x63R Hunting Mauser
10.75x65R Gruendig
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NitroX
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I think its very difficult in this forum to mention anything obscure caliber. Its just standard in here.
The common and modern wannabe creations are simply so boring.
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sharps4590
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Loc: Missouri Ozarks
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Put me in the column that prefers obscure cartridges! Just a few:
9.3 X 57R, old BP case on the 9.3 X 72R 8.7 X 55R 9 X 71 Peterlongo 10.5 X 47R 9 X 57 Mauser 40-82 WCF 40-70SS 45-2.6 45-90 8 X 56 M/S 11.15 X 60R 8 X 65R Brenneke 8 X 60R Magnum
And some not quite so obcsure:
9.3 X 57 Mauser 8.15 X 46R 7 X 64 Brenneke 8 X 57 And others.
I have some RCC brass and while it looks nice, I cannot recommend it. The brass I have came with my Meffert O/U double rifle in 8 X 60 Magnum. The brass had not been fired and a few cases were loaded. I don't trust many folks reloads and especially none that came through the mail so I pulled the bullets to check what the powder might be. It was supposed to be IMR-4895 and looked like it but, I used it for fertilizer anyway. The cases looked as if the volume was quite a bit less than what it should be. I compared the water weight volume to an 8 X 57 case and it was quite a bit LESS!!!! One couldn't get 8 X 57 starting powder charges in the case. I don't know what that was going to do with pressures but it seemed to me all they could do is increase. So, I ordered some 7 X 65R, RWS cases from Huntingtons and formed 8 X 60R cases from them and started load development. The RCC cases are on the shelf.
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crshelton
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Loc: Republic of Texas
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To Sharps 45-90, You do have a long list of obscure cartridges and I had to read them all to find 45-90. That turned out to be the only cartridge we have in common as I shoot 45-90 in my Miroku 1886 and in my Beretta DR, which turned out well.
I do not know where you shoot or hunt your .45-90 but my 1886 45-90 has taken some African DG including ele, buff, leopard and also plains game. It is VERY effective with 450 grain NF bullets at 2150 fps.
The only African game the my double has taken was a Blackbuck, in late spring before it got really hot here in Texas. I plan to take some larger game this coming fall and winter.
I share you distrust of other folks load data, especially since most of them do not use the powder that I do.
-------------------- CRS,NRA Benefactor Member, TSRA, DRSS, DWWC, Whittington Center
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sharps4590
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Loc: Missouri Ozarks
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cr, I saw you had used your 45-90 in Africa and thought that was a fine recommendation for the cartridge!!
My 45-90 is in a Shiloh Sharps, Montana Roughrider. For 12 years I used the rifle to the exclusion of all others and never had to shoot anything twice and, only twice did the animal not fall where it stood. One was a forky, mulie that simply turned around and fell. The other was about a 220 lb. boar I hit well at a full run at about 40 yards. He slid about 20 ft. on his snout but never moved when he came to a stop. Everything else crumpled where it stood, from elk down.
My load has always been a 480 gr., NEI bullet cast of 25-1 over 80 grs. of GOEX Cartridge....which I am about out of!!! Hopefully the few cans of Old Eynsford I have will perform as well. Over my chronograph it runs 1200 fps, a little more or less, barely. SD and extreme spread are in single digits.
I recently acquired a German, muzzleloading, percussion double rifle in 56 caliber. To my delight it regulated quite easily, only had to try two loads and it came on at 65 yards, shooting a 2-3 inch, composite group with open sights and 69 year old eyes!!. If I don't have a much needed back surgery before fall, I hope to blood it.
Last year I took my deer with the 9 X 71 Peterlongo and a cast bullet load, about like a 35 Remington. The deer flailed about 15 yards.
Oh, I had an E.M. Reilly in 500 BPE for about 20 years. Fun rifle and cartridge though I never killed anything with it. Sold it and bought the Vierordt double in 8 X 65R.
-------------------- Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me." John14:6
Edited by sharps4590 (12/08/22 03:30 AM)
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lancaster
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by your definition of european caliber being obscure most of my rifle cartridges are exactly this
6,5x53R 6,5x57 7x57R 8x50R Lebel 8x57IS 8x58RD 9x57 9,3x53R 9,3x57 9,3x64 375NE 2,25" 401 WSL 10,75x57 10,75x68 11,2x60 Schüler
BP needle fire cartridges
9,5 mm Dreyse 11mm Chassepot 11mm Dreyse 12,3 mm Dreyse 16,5 mm Dreyse
center fire 28/46 rifle cartridge
and not forget 9 mm Flobert rimfire and 4 ga pinfire and beside of the common shotgun caliber a 24 ga
I think only the 7,62x39 and the 22 lr are not obscure
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85lc
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Loc: Georgia, USA
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I have the pleasure of owning and shooting rifles and pistols in the following slightly obscure caliber. Some of the rifles and pistols I have passed on to other custodians.
22 Jet 22 Super Jet 5.2x52R 250/3000 25/20SS Stevens 25/20 Repeater (25 WCF) 25/25 Stevens 28/30 Stevens 6.5x52R 6.5x54 MS 256 Newton 270 Ren 7 Merrill 7x64 7x65R 280 Ross 295 Rook (300 Rook) 30 Merrill 30 Newton 300 H&H Rim 30/40 310 Cadet 8x72R 8x57R/360 8x57RJ 8x58.5R Sauer 8.15x46.5R 32 WCF 33 WCF 357 Automag 35 Remington 360BPE 9.3x72R 9.3x82R 9.3 JDJ 9.3x74 9.5x56 MS 450/400 BPE 10.5X47R 10.5x65 Collath 11.15x60R 44 WCF 44 Automag 450 3 1/4" BPE 500/450 WR #1 500/450 WR #2 50/90 Sharps 500 3" BPE 577/500 Mag BPE 577 Sinder
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