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Ripp, that is a good article and gives us new ideas, like the effect of barrel contour, to think about.
However I am with Daryl on the accuracy stakes. With the exception of my 35Whelen which has a Walter Lothar barrel all my best shooters have hammer forged barrels. Also Blaser (and whoever the parent company is) use hammer forged barrels. Not heard of a Blaser that does not shot small groups. Same for Sako and Tikka barrels.

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Hammer-Forged Rifle Barrels
Tom Beckstrand - November 26, 2018

Pushing hot, burning gas down the bore causes the steel around it to rapidly transition between solid and liquid states. It melts a little bit each time the rifle fires.

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The 6.5 Creedmoor barrel used in this test

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Well there you are, if he had used the good old .30-06 he would have got far different, better results.

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I'm thinking the lower accuracy capability statement was simply used to generate more ink, thus words, thus pay per word, pay check. It might also have been included to generate discussion and thus the need for more words.

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Some interesting points in the article, but Daryl sums up my opinion of so many of these articles. No wonder people no longer buy a lot of these printed magazines. Hopefully the actually printed articles are better.

BTW who here "mainly uses stainless steel barrels"?

I don't own a single one! Maybe I am a curmudgeon.

I also don't have a single heavy of match grade barrel, but I reckon the guys back in the 1950's knew things, get a thicker heavier barrel. It does not heat up as quickly and it doesn't whip around as much. Probably takes longer to "melt" as well.

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The test was pretty simple: Fire 20 rounds as fast as I could through each barrel

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How often do people actually do this though?

When I used to bump into a mob of goats, or a bunch of pigs, and it was a large group and the group couldn't flee, then maybe.

And if shooting groups, but then again who shoots "as fast as they can"?

Maybe it is because of the "spray and pray that something hits the target" of some semi auto shooters?

When I was fifteen or sixteen. I urged a friend to buy a bolt action .22. No he got the actual brand I recommended him to buy, a Stirling .22 S/A with 15 shot magazine. We used to go out hunting rabbits. He would fire, again, again again, many shots. Miss, miss, miss. I would raise my rifle and fire once, and dead was the bunny. Learning with a single shot crappy .22 Lithgow, taught me to aim and shoot properly ...

Which brings me to my final bit of BS ... ... that article shows me why a good single shot is best. You don't need or can shoot twenty rounds rapifd fire as fast you can. You fire once, and hit the target. A lot of these single shots are so fantastically accurate as well.

BS ended. Not paid per word either.

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Your laughing emojis are good.

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http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=95200&an=0&page=0&vc=1

Menu item at the end of the Recent messages menu line.

I always planned to add many more pages of emoji choices to that thread. Plans and plans, need more actions.

You have to use the IMAGE code, ie right click on the emoji, copy web address, and insert using an IMAGE code.

Daryl, a simple procedure but probably beyond some of our more needy members as we discussed on messages.

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John what he says about the barrel metal melting is apparently true. He is talking microns in thickness and for less time than the flame is there. Hence throat erosion. From what I have read it is not so much on the first firing but more so on subsequent shots while barrel is hot. Takes a fair amount of powder or many shots to do this. The Bren gun had a chromed lined bore and did not suffer throat erosion like some other machine guns.

As you say, not likely to happen in a sporting situation unless you are bombing up a mob of pigs.

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My Palma Match .308 rifle was still shooting well enough to compete in prone matches to 200metes, at the 15,000 round count, but I had to go to 190gr. MK's.
The throat had advanced some 7 to 8 inches ahead of the breech.
I cut the barrel to 22" (5" off) and rechambered it for the .303 Pygmy(not my name), which manages to shoot 1/2" to 3/4" with 130's and 125's, yet the rifling does not start within 2" or so of the case mouth. You can see the land memory in the steel, but "memory" is all it is.
That was a chrome moly 4-groove cut rifled tube, pretty sure.

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15,000 rounds and still shooting good.. I find that amazing... think the only rifles I have with 15,000 rounds through them are rimfires ...

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