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gryphon
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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: GABE93]
      #298023 - 28/03/17 08:28 PM

Gabe I have some pieces of Casuarina (She-0ak) and red gum here that were sawn for knife scales. I rubbed olive oil into them and they then sat along a combustion stove for a year.....bloody marvelous ha ha.

And anyone that has been on the 'board' in an Aussie wool shed would know how wonderful natural sheep wool lanolin is on the old timbers... that might be good too!

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: GABE93]
      #298024 - 28/03/17 08:33 PM

Gabe, call me any time you like. As far as the Rustins Danish Oil, there are a couple of others on the forum who also use it with success. A pain in the arse if you can't get it easily, however if you know some truck drivers they might bring some up for you on one of there long haul trips for a slab. Worth a try. It is very easy to apply, soaks in well and you can work it for a long time before it goes tacky, normally you actually wipe of the excess.
The first stock I refinished I used pure tung oil. It is very durable but becomes tacky very quickly and is difficult to work. The Danish oil is very good. I also have some Rustins stain which I intend to try mixing with the Danish oil on some sample pieces, I will report on how it works.

There is a seller in Bundaberg who seems to ship, maybe give them a try.

http://www.bundykegs.com/index.php/bundy-kegs-store-products/category/view/3


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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #298025 - 28/03/17 08:43 PM

The question is "what do the old English houses use..whats on a Purdey, whats on an H+H etc"?

Mike B what was the finish on your tailored H+H that you had built a few years ago?

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: gryphon]
      #298029 - 28/03/17 09:09 PM

Thanks gryphon !

I have used Rustins Danish Oil many years. Here in Finland it works very well, even in winter conditions. Now I have developed my own natural based stock wax for using it as a wear out surface over DO. It´s easier and faster to apply than DO and it makes much harder surface.

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: Igorrock]
      #298053 - 29/03/17 05:45 AM

From the horses gob,its what they say not me.

RUSTIN’S DANISH OIL is very easy to apply...

* Simply wipe on with a rag or brush on.
* Just 3 to 4 coats on bare timber will produce an excellent natural look finish.
* Is hard, durable & water resistant.
* Dries quickly in 4-6 hours. (dependant on ambient temperature and humidity)
* Excellent quick and easy finish for woodturnings and carvings.
* Is ideal for furniture, doors, wall panelling, window frames, & all interior woodwork.
* Can be used outdoors as long as not exposed to harsh weather, such as direct sunlight and constant wet conditions. (For this use Rustin’s Outdoor Furniture Oil)
* Conforms to safety regulations BS5665 for use on childrens toys.

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: gryphon]
      #298060 - 29/03/17 08:21 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Thank You to all, Gryphon for the initial post and all the related post's since then.
Always interesting to read, how and why others do things the way they do and the reasons behind this.

Doh!
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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: gryphon]
      #298074 - 29/03/17 11:15 AM

gryphon,

Do you mean the stove heated up the wood and olive oil and created a nice aroma?
I think you forgot the Basil, always add Basil when you use olive oil!

The lanolin/wool fat is a good preservative for wood and metal. I sets firm but doesn't harden of course. I use lanolin or Ballistol spray, or silicone grease, on gun parts when assembled into the stock as they are non toxic to the wood.

cheers,
GABE93

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #298075 - 29/03/17 11:26 AM

Thank you W'sheil and gryphon for the info about rustin's DO. I'll check the Bundaberg store sometime about buying some.

W, i wonder if the tung oil you tried actually had something else in it? The tung oils i have, eg Liberon pure tung oil, are slow to tack and cure. I have to add driers here. A bit too much driers makes mine tack too fast.

If you buy more pure tung oil sometime check that its first quality Chinese tung oil, if you arn't aware of it. There are lesser grades of it, from China and South America. Very few advertise if they have the best grade.

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: gryphon]
      #298077 - 29/03/17 11:38 AM

Quote:

The question is "what do the old English houses use..whats on a Purdey, whats on an H+H etc"?

Mike B what was the finish on your tailored H+H that you had built a few years ago?



gryphon, research and reading indicates they use very similar alkanet, resin and linseed formula's as i intend to post when i collate my material. Thats how i learned about the better types of linseed finishing, from writings about the English gunmakers.

They themselves won't tell you much detail about the various ingredients, apart from some retired workers or independent workers who sometimes post on other forums.

I found a good Purdey interview on video about how they make a gun and it has a good section about their stock finish. I'll include the link when i do the post, but they still don't tell all the ingredients.

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: GABE93]
      #298081 - 29/03/17 12:53 PM

Gabe

Here's a link to a H&H gunmaking video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUXoNUzAyvk

At 09:40, 16:00 and 17:25 you can see some stock finishing going on... wet sanding, grain raising and then the oil finish being applied.

A very truncated version of what goes on but there may be some hints to the knowledgable

You are quite right, the 'new' condition H&H stocks display quite a high gloss finish.

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: TilleyMan]
      #298089 - 29/03/17 02:58 PM

Gabe,here is a list of resellers..in Qld too,Bundaberg close?

http://www.rustins.com.au/rustins/rustinsresellers.htm

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Re: An interesting read on walnut stocking. [Re: TilleyMan]
      #298117 - 29/03/17 08:01 PM

Thanks for the links,gryphon & tilleyman
Bundaberg is close enough but it doesn't matter which shop as long as they are set up with a good account for shipping hazgoods. Some shops want to charge too much to ship hazgoods and others seem to get a better deal for shipping.

I will certainly check out the H&H video, have not seen it yet.

Here's a link to the Purdey video i found. I know some blokes are keen for more info about finishing. The stock finish bit starts at about 1hr,18min but it's all good. It's an interview done by one of the magazines. I will include it again in my postings about linseed oils. I took more images today of my linseed items here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fac892fHBME

Cheers,
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